So You Want To Start A Club, Huh?
by Burbie52, HSM team writer
Like some, I am a club leader in Home. The Grey Gamers, a group that gives older gamers over the age of thirty (as a rule) the chance to meet and become friends and play games together, is the project that I started. It has become a fairly large group at this point, with a membership that tops eighty people. It’s a pretty cohesive group as well; let’s just say I am not really worried that they won’t all be there when the PSN outage ends.
That being said, with the network down as of the writing of this piece, I decided to write something that doesn’t take being in Home to accomplish. A sort of FAQ on clubs and what makes them tick – or not tick, as the case may be.
The first thing you need to do is, of course, buy a basic clubhouse from the Estates store in Home, and then decorate it. The decor is all up to you, as no one else can do it (just like any personal space you own), so just keep in mind what you intend to use the clubhouse for, which I will cover later.
If you want to start a club in Home, one of the things you need to realize is that it can be very time consuming – at least in the initial stages – especially where recruiting members are concerned. So if you don’t have the time to invest in it, I suggest just quitting before you begin. The core group of people with whom you start your club with are essential to your success. I spent quite a few hours finding the right members and taking the time to get to know all of them one on one before I got my core group filled. You need to do this because if you don’t filter the people you add, you can end up with a lot of drama in the club, and that is always a problem. Many of the people I added were friends of others already in the club at first, but I also did some active recruiting by going to places like Central Plaza and the Dolphy races and just listening to people. Many times you can begin a conversation with someone you don’t even know, and find that they are a perfect fit into whatever club type you are creating.
That is the next thing you need to consider. What is this club about? Is it just a place for you and your friends to hang out, or is it going to serve as a place that has a specific purpose? I have many friends who have clubhouses that are empty because they started one without a goal or purpose in mind. It is like internet e-commerce in a way: you need to find your niche. Fill a void you see in Home – something that is lacking – and your club will fill faster and stay stronger. It can be about anything, it is your decisio
n, but try to make it about something. I think it is all well and good to start one for you and your friends to hang, but isn’t that what personal spaces are for? Unless you throw huge parties all the time, then a club will come in handy as it has a thirty-two person limit instead of twelve.
Once you have your niche figured out, you need to decorate your clubhouse to fulfill the needs of your members. If it’s about games, put game machines like pool tables and darts, or any of the other usable games in it for all to use. If it is about parties, build a dance floor. Or if you are going to actually have meetings, be sure there is ample seating in case everyone shows up. It can also be a mix of all of this, like mine turned out to be. It is really up to you, but keep your members in mind when making the decisions.
I think we also need to distinguish the difference between a club and a fam or mafia. As a leader of a club, you are not – or should not be, at least – the boss of everyone involved. I believe that clubs are a group enterprise – not one person alone – at least if they are going to be successful. It isn’t all about you! One of the first things I did was ask for suggestions from my members as to what activities we should do or be a part of. Out of this came many great ideas, like our Zombiefest we did near Halloween, and the Black and White Ball we did recently. Both of these ideas came from people other than me and they were very successful. Most fams, from what I have seen, are all about recruiting people. I haven’t heard of any that actually do anything like put on events. Many times they insist on a certain type of dress or color use either in clothing or in the name they display above their heads. I am sure there may be exceptions to this; the Homeling Collective, for instance, requires certain dress – but they are not a “fam,” in the pejorative sense, by any means.
Which brings me to the next thing that I believe is needed; it’s a part of the reason my club – and clubs such as the Homelings and the Hamsters – are a success. We do things together as a group. We started by just having regular club meetings every other week on Friday nights at 10pm EST. I chose this time because many people are at home in real life having just finished their work week, and it is early enough for east coast people yet it is late enough for west coasters to be home from work as well.
With Home having people from so many different time zones — the HomeStation Magazine team literally stretches across half the planet — you need to keep all of that in mind when choosing your meeting times. This has worked well for us, it may not for you. After the club grew in size past the limits of my clubhouse, many of my members offered their own clubhouses as chapters of the group so we could expand. We now have three chapters, but this created a bit of a logistical problem for me that I had to sort out. So what I did was start having a meeting for two of the chapters; on one of the Fridays, then had the other one on the following Friday. Every third Friday we meet as a combined group in a public space, so that everyone from each chapter can meet each other. This way, I can be at all of the meetings for each chapter and I still have time to add a fourth one when it is needed. I think that as a leader it is imperative that you attend as many meetings as possible.
Now you see what I mean about this becoming time intensive and why you should consider whether you want to do this at all!
(Editor’s note: HSM would like to take its hat off to those of you reading this who are in fact heavily involved with the Home community, either through various groups, volunteer work, journalism or beyond. It’s massively time-intensive, as the author points out, but a richly rewarding experience.)
Once your club gets too big to handle on your own you may need to appoint people as sub leaders, to take some of the burden of organizing events from your shoulders. How you choose them and whom you choose is up to you; I picked a few people who always came to meetings. The people who own the chapter clubs are leaders automatically and I was appointed a sub leader so I could invite people to join their clubs as well. Keep this in mind when you choose, though; if you want to have some say in who joins the club, be sure your sub leaders and chapter owners have the same vision for its purpose as you, and that you meet the people in all the chapters, so the possibility of clashes and drama are kept to a minimum. I have heard many stories of how clubs fell apart because of internal strife. As the leader, it is your responsibility to stay on top of things.
Last but not least, the number one thing I think that is absolutely necessary for a club to grow and thrive is communication. I regularly speak to or message my members about events we are having and our meetings. I send a reminder about them the day before they are held to every member involved. Large groups like the Homelings and RHO hold regular meetings and have their own websites to help keep in touch. When a group has reached a huge membership like they have, you need to have a way to communicate outside of Home. There are free services you can use to accomplish this. I myself just recently created a website for my members to use; here is a link for it. Wix.com is a free site that is easy to use and there are several others as well, if you look for them.
In the future, I would like to see Sony enhance clubs by increasing membership numbers per club and allowing us to have larger friends lists to go along with them. This would make the job of communication and expansion much easier for anyone interested in having one. An expansion of the club facilities themselves would be nice as well. That part about this being a basic clubhouse when you buy it makes you think they have plans for this in the future. I hope so.
I hope that this has helped you in making the decision about starting a club in Home. It can be a very rewarding experience if you are successful, besides being a lot of fun; remember, fun is at the core of why we go into Home in the first place. That and the relationships we have built, which can be strengthened by having a club.
May 11th, 2011 by Burbie52 | 44 comments
Burbie52 is a 62 year-old published author and founder of the Grey Gamers group within Home. Born and raised in Michigan, she has lived there her entire life, with the exception of a twelve-year residency on the Big Island of Hawaii. She enjoys reading and writing, as well as video games, especially RPG's. She has one son in his twenties.
I’m not so sure that the homelings,and other groups like it,aren’t a fam.They seem to have the same structure as a fam,officers or other such ranks,and seem to have the same goal as many “fams”.How each fam goes about trying to accomplish their goal is different which can lead to some perceived differences but i think at heart there is alot of similarity between “clubs” and “fams”.It’s so true that drama is a sure fire way for a group to meet it’s demise,i’ve lost count of the # of groups i’ve seen split because of drama.It’s such a sure way to destroy groups that many fam’s use it as a tool to go after other groups that they have problems with,namely by sneaking 1 of their own in to start some.The meeting set-up is a good idea,ever since they made the club menu’s as they are now it’s been a real pain trying to get every1 in 1 clubhouse and takes some serious juggling once you have multiple clubhouses.The main thing for me as to whether a group is a fam or club is it’s goals.If a group of ppl get together to hang-out,have fun,play games,doesn’t care if you join other groups then it’s a club to me.If a group’s main goal is “take over home”,by friendly means or other makes little difference here,don’t allow membership in other groups or try to recruit everybody then it’s probably a fam.Most fam’s are about getting big and will do w/e they think necessary to get and stay big.I learned long ago that Quality can be a match for Quantity,my fam is ALWAYS out-numbered yet we’ve never lost an “argument” yet even when the odds are as high as 8to1.Idk that clubs get into “arguments” or not but fam’s do all the time,might be another way to differentiate the 2.I think there are many things that are the same for both groups and you’ve done a good job of showing them here,the time commitment and keeping a lid on drama being the 2 biggest similarities.
If I may clarify of the whether Homelings are a Fam or not:
While the Homelings do indeed have a hierarchal structure (or ranks) and we do actively recruit people to join our Collective, that’s where the similarity between the two groups ends. Using the same inference would lead one to the conclusion that all frozen desserts are ice cream…which, of course, they are not.
Most Fams and Gangs (and I emphasize MOST…not all Fams behave this way), at least from what I have seen, seem to have the propensity to make themselves known by how much trouble they can start with other Fams, groups or individuals. For some Fams, a member’s initiation or advancement depends on how much trouble they start. Homelings are opposed to such actions – so much so that such negative actions by a member can be a reason for expulsion from the Collective itself.
Our Ranks, while indicative of a rigid structure, are used more for the purpose of keeping the whole thing together than any heavy-handed attempt to control our fellow Fluidic beings. We have around 400 beings who have been assimilated (and many, many MotherShips – you Hoomans call them clubs – to house them all). If there was no designated leadership, the Collective would implode in on itself in very short order.
As a part of that leadership structure as the Commander of the glorious Mothership 18, I view my role as more of a guide in how to apply our Three Rules (our dress code, respect for others and self, and to have fun) than someone who lords over others, snapping orders and using my underlings as a foot-rest.
Unlike Fams, we don’t single out other groups to start a word-bubble battle or war with. While some see our pacifistic demeanor as a sign of weakness, the reality is we simply don’t care to indulge in such childish behavior. Such actions are a waste of time and energy and an impediment (both for ourselves as well as for others) to actually having a good time while in Home.
And I will not deny that we do actively recruit members to shed their fur and alter their DNA (ie: make themselves look Homeling and get rid of all hair on an avatar). This is done not simply to show off our numbers, but also to allow as many as possible follow our example of being respectful to others (something we could use more of in Home, it seems) as well as to fill up one’s friends list (which can happen rather quickly after one joins the collective).
And, to touch on our appearance for a moment: the purpose of the shared visage we wear serves multiple purposes. Indeed, it is an easy identifier so that we may recognize each other. And we do look very snazzy, without a doubt – who else can so successfully pull off white shoes after Labor Day? But it also shows that the focus of our members goes more than skin-deep. We simply don’t care about one’s skin tone, hair color, height, weight, or size and heft of one’s knees – it’s how you choose to be as a person which is most important, not how you look, what religion you are, or what ethnic background you may come from. We are many, we are one…and we are equal regardless of any physical characteristics.
I apologize for getting all long-winded, but there are quite a few misconceptions about who and what Homelings are. We are not a Fam, cult, cancer patients on a rampage, Hare Krishnas, a group of rabid Telly Savalas fans, nor members of the Hair Club for Men. We are…Homeling.
Excellent synopsis Johne and I’ll add just so everyone is aware, we do not ever say that a Homeling can not be part of another group on Home, they’re certainly welcome to do so, as long as other groups are also respectful in Home.
Thanks, Eli :>
And I second Eli’s point.
For purposes of classification intent really is irrelevant.Whether a group has certain characteristics for”good” purposes or for nefarious purposes doesn’t make much difference i believe.If your intent is to “take over Home” i believe that puts you in the fam category but like i posted below distinctions can be difficult and in many cases meaningless.In the end fam ,club,clan or collective it should be fun,of course ppl have different ideas about what’s fun but that’s another topic,lol.Btw i meant no disrespect by calling Homelings a fam,just pointing out that many aspects of these divisions are very similar.
I suspect cthulu already knows this, but I’d like to clarify a few points for any casual reader who may not have much direct contact with Homelings:
1. “Assimilating (taking over) all of Home” is, at least for me, tongue-in-cheek. It isn’t even an official “Rule” of the Collective. To me, it’s an amusing part of the role-playing. I’m the current Commander of Homeling Mothership 3, but I personally have no actual dreams of Glory and Conquest. Don’t tell anyone xD
I welcome anyone who shares our ideals (Respect, Snazzy uniform, Fun, Bacon) to join, but Homelings do welcome non-members to hang out with us and enjoy many of our events as well. I have quite a few friends on my FL who are not Homelings and who never will be. I’ve belonged to a few other Home clubs while also being a Homeling, mostly Home bowling leagues. There’s never been a problem with that.
2. Homeling “ranks” are the direct result of the way Sony set up their clubhouses. Each of our “Motherships” (“clubouses”) has 1 Commander (“club leader”) and 4 Subcommanders (“club sub-leaders”) because that’s how Sony set up the administrative operations of the clubhouses that Sony created for Home. I’d be very surprised if any other Home club had a different sort of organization, for this reason. They may use different names, but every club in home MUST use this setup. It’s inherent in Home’s design.
3. Resistance is futile.
Just hand over any bacon you are carrying and we will leave quietly….
@Herx: Yes indeed…resistance IS futile.
@Keara: We’ll take the bacon, and we may leave…but i doubt it will be quietly :>
good advice burbie.iv checked out the web site n added it to my favs list.n ill be there when ps is back online.in fact iv showed friends the web site n you might have a few new members waiting to join .take care n stay young till we meet in home again cap.
Thanks for the kind words Cap. I am looking forward to seeing you and all of my other members and friends in Home as well. Hope it is soon!
Thanks for clarifying what a fam is for me. Having never been in one I could only go by what I have seen first hand. But I think that fams seem very different from clubs by your own description. For one you won’t find the Grey Gamers or RHO for example running around starting club wars or arguments with others or trying to disrupt a different groups activities. And we certainly don’t tell members they can’t belong to other groups or send them to infiltrate them and cause drama. The only rules my club has are 1) Have fun 2) Be nice to each other and 3) Mingle -- that’s the point!
We aren’t really about getting big either, we actually have more of a purpose than numbers like I stated in the article and we also do things for the community to build it up. I would say those are some major differences.
burbie, its our age in the grey gamers; 1:we already know everything, so we dont bother arguing, and 2: it interupts our nap times. lil mouse
LOL mouse. Look at our new website if you get the chance.
ooooooo, i did. i’d love that logo for a t-shirt. i’d soooo wear it proudly. WOO HOO!!!
I just wanted to say being a member of the Grey Gamer group is really nice, especially when there is someone like Burbie52 who has done all the foot work for us establishing an awesome clubhouse. We have an awesome place where people gather or come to have a chat or two, a place where everyone is free to express their selves. Thanks for welcoming me to the Grey Gamers.
Yes i agree there are some fundamental differences between fams and clubs but it’s not always possible to tell which a group is at 1st glance as sometimes groups will have characteristics of each.By your rules it’s very clear yours is a club as in most fams there isn’t any rules about being nice to each other,my own being 1 exception to that.In many fams “bringing down” 1’s immediate boss to a higher boss,in effect backstabbing,is commonplace.These groups,clubs or fams,should be about fun for the most part and tearing apart friendships over a rank has always seemed ridiculous to me.
Also for the record many fam fights aren’t random drive-by fights.Most leaders of fams know each other and if a fam likes or dislikes another fam it’s usually because the leaders don’t like each other.Sometimes it’s for justifiable reasons sometimes not but every fam that has leaders that get along works their differences out,the 1’s that don’t get along settle disputes by other means.
Curious as to what the ‘other means’ would be in settling their disputes on Home.
Well they could range from something simple like agreeing to settle things by playing a game to settle a dispute,kinda like a bet you win the game you win the argument,to more complicated things like large scale “fam wars” or other such tactics.Usually when things have gotten to the “fam war” stage each “fam” is out to steal the other “fams” members and just generally trying to make the other leaders look ineffectual,incompetent and ultimately not worth following as leaders so as to get as many ppl as possible to leave the other “fam”.There are probably a million was to try to do that so I’m not even gonna try to list them here but very few of them are pretty or harmless to friendships in the targeted “fam”.
Correction: Most leaders of fams know each other and if a fam dislikes another it’s usually because the leaders don’t like each other.
Fam’s are the fluffy name that people on Home give to what would be called a clan in any other game. Makes the term “fam” seem a little cultish to me, but meh. I didn’t come up with it.
I am wondering why it is such a necessity to term a group of like-minded people with such a broad stroke. You’re a Clan, a Fam or a Club and we’ll try to stuff you into one of those categories. I find that silly.
Homelings a Fam…well I will admit that they are certainly like a Family! They’re very close to each other, look out for each other and genuinly enjoy spending time with each other. In fact, I’ve send food to a Homeling family that was in need, so if that’s not a Family, what is? But, in the context of Clubs on Home, Fam does not have a very good connotation and I prefer that Homelings are not characterized as such.
We have ranks, true, but then any group of participants with the sheer numbers that Homelings have would require that just to keep some sense of order in the group. Although we are ONE, we do require some sense of order and therefore designate ranks to help with the responsibilities of this, and certainly NOT for ego boosts or awards for our long time members. However, we are all equal and never ho ld it over anothers head that we are better or less than the next Homeling.
Alas, the terms Fam, Clan, Group, Club and Cult have been hashed over again and again in various forums and everyone will have their own opinion. Just like on the highway you drive your car upon, you will meet nice drivers and one’s filled with road rage, you shall find the same wandering around in Home.
I also feel I have to say that although it’s the Homelings wish to ‘Assimilate all of Home’, we of course realize the extreme of that statement and are in fact, careful in our choices of assimilants as much as we can be. Wouldn’t it be glorious of all of Home could be Assimilated meaning that they would ALL be respectful and fun beings? Ah…that would be too sweet!
Good article Burbie, and agreed that when you take upon owning a basic clubhouse of your own that you wish others to gather in, you take quite a responsibility and quite a bit of work upon yourself. A good club will be able to distribute that workload, such as Grey Gamers, Hamsters and Homelings have done, as well as other productive and growing clubs have done.
I concur Eli…seems like great minds think alike :>
Yeah i agree that names like fam,clan,club for the most part are pretty meaningless.At heart all of these consist of like-minded ppl that enjoy hanging out together.I think all the good fams do many of the same things that the Homelings do,watch out for each other as much as possible and try to influence the community in a positive way.Not all “fams” are bad just as not all clubs are good,the way they are run makes all the difference.
I agree with that statement cthulu. Home is much like life, there are good and bad people and it reflects all of the many faceted sides of human beings. I think that this is a healthy discussion we have going here, I for one didn’t know much about the whole fam or clan thing until I read some of the info in here and it is good to have the Homeling commanders involved to explain a bit about their group and what they stand for in layman’s terms. This was written for exactly this purpose, to generate productive commentary that will inform people who are newer and don’t know that much about Home.
@Cthulu: Agreed, sir. The various groups who inhabit Home are what they are due to thier leaders and members…not because of broader and speculative terms like ‘Fam” and “gang”. Unfortunately, due to some of the connotations contained in such monikers, it’s all too easy to dismiss or decry some of the more forward thinking groups…like Homelings, Grey Gamers, a short list of Fams, and so on..as something other than what they are due to such terminology.
@Burbie: Indeed, Burbie…no better way to open up one’s mind than to have a constructive discussion. And as a Homeling, I’m always happy to discuss the topic. And, as a Grey Gamer, I’m always happy to run into you :>
Agreed,it’s my belief that knowledge is wasted if not used and shared.I must admit idk much about the Homelings either,just what i’ve read on these pages, so I’m always happy to learn new things and share what i know.This can sometimes cause problems with some ppl when they believe I’m attacking them personally by offering a different or unthought of opinion but that is seldom my intention.Good job starting this discussion Burbie,it’s in this way that we all become more knowledgeable about Home and things that go on in it.
It would be very interesting -- and very helpful -- if perhaps a follow-up article is written, detailing about when a club in Home gets so big that second, third and more clubs are added and a hierarchy structure is needed in order to keep things organized and not imploding.
Yes I agree Terra, I would love to see someone do a piece to add to this one and go into greater depth about what to do when a club gets really huge. I am still fairly new at this myself and could probably use a few pointers of my own, as my club is slowly getting to this point. I just don’t feel qualified to do it myself, perhaps we could get Nos or Queen Eli or someone else in a large group to step up (hint, hint).
::Blush::
It’s a possibility
I can only speak for myself, but I’m 99.999∞% positive that all of us at HSM would love an article from you, Queen_Eli.
I’ve written one already, just waiting for Norse to publish it. I’ll get some thoughts together on one regarding large groups and multiple clubhouses and see what we can do.
Don’t quote me on it, but I’ve a feeling the article you’re referencing will be appearing in Issue 5.
@Cthulu: If it’s any comfort, I never took your words as an attack of any sort. I just took the opprotunity to attempt to put to rest some misconceptions which have grown around Homelings. I hope i didn’t come off too heavy handed…I do tend to get a tad wordy at times.
And you’re more than welcome to do some hanging with the Homelings (what a good name for a corny 80’s TV pilot…nobody steal it, it’s mine) any time you see us gathered in Home. Even if you don’t want to join, we still welcome all to come and gather with us. Never be afraid to come dance in our bubbles :>
Well i do have some Homeling friends on my list,but in the world of fams some like to keep the inner workings of their group secret so i don’t ask about what goes on inside my friends fams for the most part.Thanks for the invite,i have my own group bent on global domination of home so i won’t be joining but i’m on home almost daily so i’ll be happy to hang with you if i see you,look forward to it.
Great article Linda! Clubs are indeed a time consuming process. I commend your work with the Grey Gamers! You’ve done such a great Job.
I have a concern about the concept of niche though… doesn’t that just segregate Home. I mean, I completely understand the concept behind the Grey Gamers and I think it’s a wonderful idea but there is a fine line that has to be walked to keep from being a discriminatory. What about an exclusive club based on gender, religion, sexual orientation or race? Would those be alright? Should a niche be a way that you are all intrinsically different than the other people in Home or should it be based on like interests? Why is being part of a group a virtue in and of itself?
I know I have lost friends to clubs / fams / gangs / gaggles… whatever you want to call them. Once they join some group they become disinterested in anyone or anything else and that just seems dangerous and counterproductive to what Home should be.
Anyone that puts a rank in a Home group ahead of a friendship probably never was a true friend anyways.I’ve encountered that same problem and it’s always left me perplexed as to how fast some ppl can change in a short amount of time,sometimes in minutes.It leads me to believe that a rank was their intention from the start and not friendship,as in life there are all kinds of ppl on Home.
By niche I meant it is a good idea to look for something you can do to fulfill a need in Home. In my case it was a place for older gamers to meet. I believe it was because of this fact that I got it filled so quickly and grew so fast. That is not to say there can’t be other reasons to start one. It could be based on a particular game or any number of things. In fact I would not be surprised if there were clubs based on the things you mentioned already ie. all girl clubs or some such thing. I think that clubs should be looked at as something used to enhance your time in Home, and if in the course of that you can also help make Home a better place, then all the better.
There is at least 1 fam of lesbians that i know of so i guess you could say it discriminates against guys but I’m highly sceptical that they are all females,lol.There is a fam for just about any interest on Home there are literally hundreds of these things around and many are born and die each day.Fams are an ever evolving field and are always changing,it really is hard to classify many of them.
I’m reading all of your replies and the one thing that truly struck me and it hits the nail squarely on the head, is of Home itself, that need, in that groups are catered for and a service to those that have this need to belong to something?
I really love how the Homelings can create this wonderful infrastructure, it’s with a military precision and yet they come across as loose and easygoing all at the same time. I was happy to meet Queen Eli, who was polite and approachable (And most of you are)
And I just like how you create your whole identity and culture. I have to say I’m fascinated by the way that you see the world. The closes thing I can compare this to is Kevin Spacey’s ‘Prot’, from the movie K-PAX in which we see the world from his ‘Otherwordly’ point of view.
Burbie, I love your Grey Gamers, and I for one in answer to Gideon’s point of view have still been interested in everyone else in home. True it may be counter productive in joining the other social activities on Home, if there were constant meetings that would invade your whole ‘Home’ life, but i wouldn’t call it a dangerous thing. But I get your point that it can otherwise drag you away from Home in general if you let it happen. because, just like Second Life, my original playground, Home is what you make of it.
It was a pleasure to meet you as well CheekyGuy.
Very nice article ¦^) , my experience in Home & dealing with Clubs/Fams/Gangs (whichever you choose to use) has been awful, they are either bully “noobs” or get upset if someone refuses to join or change your chat color because its THEIR color, there are exceptions of course but sadly i’ve only seen 3 in the 2+ yrs i’ve been on Home that are actually kind & genuinely out too have a good peaceful time in Home & they have all already been named (Grey Gamers/ The Collective/ Hamsters), im sure there are more but sadly they probably get over shadowed by the bullying groups, once a new person in Home sees how those groups act they are likely too decline any club invites from that moment on & i have friends that just automatically say “No thank you” to any invites just too stay out of Home drama, it would be so nice if the majority of clubs were like the 3 mentioned above & not the bullying ones but Home is like real life in that aspect, gotta take the bad w/ the good.
on a side note i have a club ¦^) , its not very big bout 20 ppl, but its purpose is not size, its friendship, pool (billiards), darts & Brimestone poker, we have tournaments on the Bowling Alley tables & on the Hustle Kings game for pool, not the Veemee tables lol which suck (sorry Veemee but its true), dart & poker tournaments are held in the clubhouse or any personal space, sometimes the winner gets a $20 PSN card but we do it for FUN & good competition, & no you dont have to join to play in them, we have only very few rules the main ones being, respect all others in Home & have fun, of course we make rules for the tournaments but those are basic game rules, nothing like certain colors or name changes, lol i tried to call it Pool Hall Junkies but PSN wouldn’t accept the “junkies” part so its called Tournament Play, w/ the Alley bein full most of the time & no good personal tables available its hard but we make do as best we can, every nite we can be found on any of the Bowling Alley servers
Glorious readings… ALL OF IT!
Such grand discussion