WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.000 Special meeting this evening. I'm going to call the meeting to order and I'm going to do a quick roll call uh 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:06.000 Hey, Holly, can I make my own recording of the meeting? 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:08.000 Sure. 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:09.000 Okay. 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:12.000 And you also co-host ship eventually, right, Frank? Anyway, you'll figure it out. 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:15.000 Oh, for screen sharing, yes, I will need that. 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:24.000 Okay. I'm going to just call out your name if you could please unmute and say yes or present. 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:26.000 Nick? Michael. 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:31.000 Present. 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:32.000 Laurie? Helen. 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:35.000 Present. 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:37.000 Present. 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:41.000 Deborah. Sheila. 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:42.000 Ingrid. Harriet. 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:43.000 Reza. 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:44.000 Present. 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:46.000 Yes, present. Yes. 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:59.000 Pauline. And I am here. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10. That is 10 members present. We have established quorum. Thank you all for jumping on this meeting tonight. 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:09.000 I'm going to start off very quickly. With just a brief discussion about members terms. At our February meeting. 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:14.000 Earlier this month, there were five members whose terms had expired. 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:24.000 All four were present. Nick was not able to be at that meeting. However, his terms have also expired. 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:33.000 And Nick, I'm sorry you weren't able to join us last week. Thank you for letting earlier in the month. Thank you for letting me know that. 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:41.000 But you did confirm that you would like to be considered for another term of three years. 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:42.000 I was just hoping you wouldn't mind sharing briefly with the members. 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:45.000 Yes, please. 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:57.000 Why you would like to be considered. Again and then what will happen is Well, actually, if you could please confirm that, yes, you would like to be considered for another three years. 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:59.000 Yes, I would like to be considered for another three years. 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:05.000 Excellent. Thank you. Just a couple of words of why you'd like to serve again, and then we'll just we'll vote and then we can um 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:25.000 Just… Sure. I just want to continue being an advocate for uh My son and his classmates and all the kids that need help at the Kennedy School and elsewhere and hope to keep working toward that. 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:29.000 Thank you, Nick. We all appreciate your contributions to the commission. 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:38.000 Does anyone have any questions for Nick before I do a roll call? 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:44.000 No, I'm sorry. 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:46.000 Just did a roll call. 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:57.000 That was to confirm that who was present for quorum. 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:58.000 Motion? 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:08.000 So I'm gonna i'm going to put forth um a motion to Except Nick's request to for consideration. 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:16.000 For three more terms. I'm going to go through and do a roll call vote of all those who are either in favor, not in favor of Nick. 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:22.000 I'm going to start the same way. Nick, how do you vote 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.000 Holly, can you repeat that? 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:31.000 Sure, sure. At our last meeting, we had several members whose terms had expired. 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:36.000 And for everyone who is in the room, we all wanted to be reappointed. 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:41.000 And the commission voted in favor of accepting all four of those members. 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:48.000 And then a letter is written by the chair to the mayor with this information, which I did a couple weeks ago. 00:03:48.000 --> 00:04:00.000 And then the mayor is the first person who decides who gets reappointed for additional another term but we do provide that input as our commission. 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:03.000 So we need to just do the same thing for Nick. 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:05.000 Who wasn't at our last meeting. 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:14.000 So we're just voting to simply say we all agree that if Nick wishes to be, we want him to continue. 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:18.000 With our commission. Is that right, Holly? 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:19.000 Almost. 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:26.000 Yes. Did we answer your question, Pauline? 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:34.000 And who are we talking? I'm losing this. No, it's just that We got the information. 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:53.000 That five members of the commission. Yeah, I got that much. Okay, so this is just a confirmation of requesting and sending to the mayor that Nick… would also like to continue. I didn't get who it was. No, it's Nick. It's Nick. 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:59.000 Nick, okay. Okay. All right. Let's do our roll call. Yeah, we can't do I. We have to do roll call. Okay. 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:02.000 Next. 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:08.000 I don't like the guy, but yeah, I give him a thumbs up. 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:16.000 Just stealing Michael's humor. Michael. How do you vote? 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:21.000 Oh, there you go. 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:23.000 Michael. 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:26.000 Oh, I'm sorry. I said yes. I'll accept them. Yes. 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:27.000 Excellent, Laurie. Helen. 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:28.000 Nice. 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:31.000 Yes. 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:32.000 Deborah. Sheila. 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:34.000 Yes. 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:35.000 Yes. 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:38.000 I'm a yes. Ingrid. Pauline. 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:41.000 Yes. 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:43.000 Pauline? Yes. Yes. 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:47.000 Harriet. Motion passes. Everyone's. Is excited, Nick. I will write another letter and share it with everyone. 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:52.000 Yay! 00:05:52.000 --> 00:06:04.000 The next thing is disability pride events. We voted at our last meeting for um a speaker. Sorry, that was anticipated part. 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:10.000 Forgive me, Michael. We have the Red Sox event coming up this year again. 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:26.000 And we have gotten tickets. And last year we spent roughly $16,000 I would like us to approve the same budget for now. And if it goes over or under, we can revisit that. 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:40.000 So I'm going to put forth a motion. To allocate $16,000 of our budget towards the Boston Red Sox disability pride game. 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:41.000 Any questions? Yeah, a second. Thank you. 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:49.000 Seconded. Oh, well, yeah, go ahead. 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:54.000 Any discussion? This is Harriet if we need it. 00:06:54.000 --> 00:07:01.000 Okay, I'm going to roll call for the third time. Nick, how do you vote? 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:02.000 In the affirmative, yes. 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:09.000 Michael. Laurie. 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:10.000 Helen. Deborah. 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:11.000 Yes. 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:14.000 Yes. 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:15.000 Sheila. I'm a yes. Ingrid. Harriet. 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:17.000 Yes. 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:19.000 Yes. 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:20.000 Yes. Yes. 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:25.000 Pauline. Excellent. I have it. 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:30.000 16,000 will be allocated. Dear Treasurer, please make a note. 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:31.000 Yes. 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:41.000 Harriet… And Frank brought to our attention the lawsuit which is the main meat of our discussion tonight. 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.000 The lawsuit that's been filed in, I believe, 17 or 16 states. 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.000 That's right. 17 states. That's right. 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:56.000 17 states. It does not include Massachusetts. However. It is to abolish the protections of the 504. 00:07:56.000 --> 00:08:11.000 Which are very precious to be very precious all Americans. And Harriet and Frank are going to talk us through what this is. 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:40.000 We would like to Just briefly talk about a draft or a position or how we feel about this, similar to when there were people who commissions or groups that discussed other things that are going on in our world. This is extremely local and extremely important to all persons with disabilities and all the people who love and take care of them. 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:49.000 It could take away their educational rights. And I feel strongly along with Harriet that we need to discuss this tonight. 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:56.000 And come up with a plan of action or advocacy. Take it away, miss. 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:57.000 Harriet. 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:07.000 Now I'm going to hand it to Frank in a moment. But what I'd like to say is you know biden did a great thing. 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:13.000 Because he got… Trends. 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:18.000 Into protections. Like our protections. 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:48.000 So it's actually inclusive. Of, you know, the whole 504 That's 1973, the 1990 ADA and the 1999 Olmsted acts So all the rights and privileges that we as people with individuals have through these rights and now Biden fortunately extended it 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:58.000 To transgender individuals. So it's a sweeping thing. And Frank, I think you should just take over and give a summary if you would like. 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:01.000 And you said you might share your screen, right? 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:16.000 Yes, that's right. Because Harry and I have drafted a letter which sort of summarizes what we know about this case and sort of what we know about what we can do about this. 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:22.000 Yes, I would like to screen share this. Let's see. 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:29.000 And Frank is going to read it to us as well, Pauline, so we get info too. 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:35.000 Okay. Do you guys see the letter? 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.000 No. 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:42.000 Huh, okay. Interesting. It says that it did it 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:43.000 I see it. 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:44.000 I see it. 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:45.000 I see it too. 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:47.000 Well… Oh, okay. Is that a lawsuit by 17th state's Attorney General? 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:50.000 He said. 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:51.000 Yes, that's right. Okay, okay, no, that's great. Okay. 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:55.000 Yes. Okay. Yep. I can see it now. 00:10:55.000 --> 00:11:09.000 So for the benefit of Pauline and Harriet. Well, we can read through this letter or I can read through this letter And then we can discuss. 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:23.000 A lawsuit by 17 states attorneys general winding its way through federal courts right now threatens to have the entirety of Section 504 declared unconstitutional. 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:46.000 As you probably know, Section 504 prohibits organizations receiving federal funding from discriminating against persons with disabilities in participating in programs, receiving benefits, and employment. These organizations and employers include many schools, hospitals, and nursing homes and other organizations. 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:55.000 For the lawyers and the legalese geeks among us, here is a link to the actual text of the lawsuit. It's Texas v. Becerra. 00:11:55.000 --> 00:12:03.000 Filed in U.S. District Court, Northern District of Texas, Lubach or Lubbock Division. 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:11.000 For the rest of us lay people, a recent article from Forbes magazine excerpted below highlights this threat. 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:28.000 This is an article from Forbes.com published on the 13th of February. 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:29.000 Maybe work tonight or do you want to make? Thank you. 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:35.000 Maybe about 11 days ago. It starts by explaining what Section 504 is. Basically, before the better known, you know, the ADA law, which 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:36.000 It's okay. Keep going. 00:12:36.000 --> 00:13:00.000 Sorry, what's going on? Okay, basically before the ADA was passed in 1990, and I believe President George H.W. Bush signed it. Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 was one of the first major disability rights laws. 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:17.000 That this nation has passed. And it says that no otherwise qualified individual can be simply because of their disability denied the benefits of or subjected to discrimination In any program or activity that receives federal funds. 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:26.000 Now that law has turned out to be hugely important in education, offering an even broader definition of students with special needs. 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:36.000 Than the other individuals with Disabilities Education Act, I guess the ida For those of you who know it that way. 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:55.000 Okay, but the important part is now 16 states have joined the state of Texas in a lawsuit asking the federal court to declare section 504 unconstitutional Now on the surface, if you start reading this lawsuit on your own. 00:13:55.000 --> 00:14:10.000 The lawsuit appears to be one more battle over the rights of transgender citizens. Under the Biden administration, the Section 504 definition of disability was expanded to recognize that, in quotes. 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:19.000 Gender dysphoria may be considered a physical or mental impairment. To suit them. 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:31.000 The lawsuit then spends over 30 pages objecting to the addition of gender dysphoria to the Section 504 definition. It argues against the rule's understanding of gender dysphoria. 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:47.000 It argues against the characterization of Olmsted, which is a 1999, I believe it's a Supreme Court case, that found that persons with mental disabilities have the right to live outside of institutions. 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:55.000 The lawsuit also argues that the new definition conflicts with the ADA. 00:14:55.000 --> 00:15:11.000 Then on page 37, so very deep in this lawsuit. As it reached its third of four counts, the lawsuit switches gears, arguing for the elimination of Section 504 entirely. 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:22.000 The suit argues that Section 504 is, in quotes, coercive. Untethered to the federal interest in disability and unfairly retroactive. 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:52.000 And therefore unconstitutional. Now, 504 plans for students with special needs are common in all 50 states, like an individualized education program or IEP, a 504 plan puts in place a specialized program and supports to help students with special needs succeed and ensures that they will not be discriminated against in classes or activities. Section 504 plans, sorry, 504 plans address 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:03.000 A wide variety of needs, including visual impairment. Diabetes, heart disease. 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:07.000 Epilepsy, depression. And ADHD. 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:20.000 Section 504 is meant to guarantee that these students cannot be discriminated against and that they will get the supports they need as they receive a free and appropriate public education. 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:30.000 Attorneys general involved in the suit have argued that 504 plans are not at risk when confronted with protesters, the communication, for example. 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:36.000 The communications director for the Iowa Attorney General's Office told Michaela Rahm. 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:53.000 Of the Des Moines Register, in quotes, the Iowans who were fed lies to show up at our office today in freezing temperatures deserve the truth. And the truth is that no one's 504 plan is being changed or removed. 00:16:53.000 --> 00:17:00.000 End quote. But if you look at the language of the lawsuit, that language is clear. 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:16.000 The fourth item under demand for relief says declare section 504 29 usc section 794 unconstitutional. 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:25.000 Or paragraph 794 unconstitutional. For all intents and purposes. Section 504 would cease to exist. 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:33.000 And with it, any requirements for states to meet the needs of students with special needs who currently benefit from 504 plans. 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:45.000 Or any such students in the future. A decision in favor or found for these 17 states will affect all 50 states. 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:50.000 And for individuals of all ages. So I guess… 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:58.000 Just a minute, because I think there's one postscript that is understood on some level but not spoken. 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:08.000 If this case is won in the district federal court. Its next juncture would be the Supreme Court. Is that right? 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:17.000 Well, if someone bothers to appeal it. But if it wins in federal court and no one appeals it, it becomes law of the land. 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:24.000 Or it binds us So 504 would be gone. 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:34.000 And what Frank and I and others have been doing is checking in. 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:54.000 There are ways to check in with the… Massachusetts Attorneys general, and I hear, but I haven't seen proof yet that one amicus brief or friend of the court opposing this lawsuit has been filed. 00:18:54.000 --> 00:19:16.000 And it's my understanding the more of people who register their disagreement may in fact inspire another. I don't know. And any of us who has Friends and relations in any of these 17 affected states We can encourage them. 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:29.000 To file complaints against the continuance and ask for withdrawal. From their states. And I don't know, can you list the states for us, Frank, just so everybody hears them once? 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:37.000 17 states are as follows. Texas, who's in the lead um then it's joined by Alaska. 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:45.000 Alabama, Arkansas. Florida, Georgia Indiana, Iowa. 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:50.000 Kansas, Louisiana. Missouri, Montana. 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:58.000 Nebraska, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah. West Virginia. 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:28.000 So this is just to informationally provide information And Frank and I can be a resource if anyone wants any further support. This is Pauline. I have a question. Sure. Since when does a person's gender have anything to do with disability? Can I just interject this, Pauline? That's irrelevant. 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:41.000 Yeah. No, no, wait, wait, wait. Whether you approve or agree with transgendered rights is not the point. 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:53.000 Because… No, but if they're using that… to scuttle the whole law. That's correct. That's why we're here to share this information. 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:58.000 Harriet, this is Michael. May I interject? I think I can answer her question. 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:08.000 Go ahead. 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:09.000 It's a diagnostic tool. 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:10.000 It's a medical. 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:16.000 So there is something called the DSM-5 um the uh The… The diagnostic, it's a diagnostic tool. And what that tool does, there's also another one that the DSM-5 is for the United States. 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:21.000 Diagnostic statistical Manual. 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:22.000 And Lori. 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:37.000 The DSM-5… The DSM-5 was made in the United States by psychologists, psychiatrists, social workers, a whole bunch of people. And there's another one called the ICD, which is an international guide to help with disabilities. 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:54.000 Gender dysphoria is considered a disability under those Under those two guides that everybody uses to figure out which guide it is. So it has nothing to do with whether or not we approve of being transgender or not. It is that 00:21:54.000 --> 00:22:16.000 It is accepted just like anxiety because it has its own its own criteria that you have to meet to be able to be considered a disability. So it is considered a disability, if you ask anybody who accepts the DSM-5 and the ICD. 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:22.000 Does that help, Pauline? Sort of. Okay. 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:28.000 The issue here isn't whether or not we agree or disagree with what Biden said. 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:34.000 The issue is that someone took that as a jumping off point to abolish a law. 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:45.000 That protects many people. And the concern is the concern persons with disabilities will lose a lot of their civil rights because of this. 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:53.000 Lots of groups. And whether, as Harriet said, the piece about what was added to it by Biden. 00:22:53.000 --> 00:23:03.000 Isn't our concern. Our concern is making sure that that the 504 does not go away. 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:13.000 That makes sense, Pauline? This is Harriet. We don't want 504 to go away. Would you agree with that? 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:18.000 I do agree that we don't want it to go away. Well, that's all we need to know. 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:29.000 And I just want to clarify one other thing, Harriet. Harriet and Frank have offered to help with advocacy. That's something that they're doing outside of the commission. 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:38.000 As residents but here, and I applaud that and I appreciate that and we're all advocates in the commission and outside of the commission. 00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:48.000 But today, as members of the commission, what we're talking about is What do we want to do? What action do we want to take with our local government to say. 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:55.000 The Somerville Commission for Persons with Disabilities strongly urges the city to recognize this. 00:23:55.000 --> 00:24:01.000 And um We cannot let 504. 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:09.000 Be abolished. And even though we are not a state that is signing on to it. There are certain actions that can be taken. 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:12.000 We do agree with what I just said, Harriet. 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:26.000 Yeah, absolutely. It's just like saying the way the city has declared itself, you know, a sanctuary city or the way the city itself declares, which may be different from other places, right? So it's just simply the city. 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:36.000 This municipality has the right to express itself that we don't want not just our commission, but the city. 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:45.000 We can request that the council and the administration recognize just very impossible. 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:50.000 Thing that could happen. I mean, you know, just… We got to keep our 504. 00:24:50.000 --> 00:25:05.000 And I would just like to add that tonight the school committee has drafted a resolution in support of people with disabilities in Somerville Public Schools because of this 504 lawsuit. 00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:23.000 Um and that meeting is tonight at seven o'clock and they are taking public feedback And what we're talking about tonight is what do we feel is our next step as advocates within the city to share this news. 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:32.000 And how we stand strong with people. Who need the 504 to stay in place. 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:33.000 Of course, Michael. 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:43.000 Holly, this is Michael. May I ask a question? So I… 100%. I think we are all on the same page. At least I hope we are all on the same page in this commission. 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:48.000 The Northeast is never, ever, ever going to go that way. 00:25:48.000 --> 00:26:02.000 I mean, there was just not one state in the northeast that go that way. What is the strongest thing that we can do other than say support it, other than say, because we know that the states are going to support it. 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:11.000 Is there anything strong that we can ask the city to do that will help these people. 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:19.000 It will help us all ultimately will help us ultimately Yes, so that's one of my question. 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:24.000 Anyone else want to, Helen, I think I see your hands up. 00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:25.000 Yeah. 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:37.000 Yes, I'm curious. The rights in 504, are they not incorporated into the Americans with Disabilities Act? 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:38.000 They are separate. 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:45.000 Hi. 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:46.000 This is Harriet. 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:49.000 Separate, is that what you said? 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:51.000 I believe they are separate. 504 came after. 00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:54.000 Okay. 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:55.000 Excuse me, the ADA came after the 504. Sorry, dyslexic moment. 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:56.000 No, no, no, no. 00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:59.000 Okay, four. 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:02.000 Ada came long after 504, yes. 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:04.000 Act. Correct. 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:08.000 This is Michael. Again, may I explain something to Helen through the chair? 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:10.000 Sure. 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:27.000 Okay, so when you receive special education services, again, that's also another law that is set into place, you receive programs, you receive a lot of extra support because you need it because of your disability. 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:38.000 The 504 plan helps a lot of people who need accommodations, who need support that maybe they don't need direct service, but they need to have some kind of cushion. 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:44.000 So they will lose that. And we cannot allow that to happen. 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:50.000 Thank you, Michael, for explaining. 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:58.000 Harriet, I see your hands up. Just one second. Anyone else, any of our other members, Ingrid, Nick, Deborah. 00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:04.000 Laurie, Sheila. Frank, who want to make another comment? 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:08.000 Or have a question? 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:14.000 I don't Ingrid through the chair, I don't want to 00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:26.000 I just want to say that the trans issue or the trans thing is definitely just kind of a scapegoat that they're It's a distraction. 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:31.000 It's such a small portion of the population and those people are extremely vulnerable. 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:39.000 And to tie them into something of anger and vitriol that's actually going to take away the rights of other people and they think they're being sneaky about it. 00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:47.000 To me is we have to fight back against that kind of gold-faced tyranny. 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:48.000 For lack of a better word. Yeah. 00:28:48.000 --> 00:29:01.000 So… Thank you, Ingrid. Any other members who haven't spoke who want to add any comments? 00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:03.000 Oh. 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:05.000 Laurie. 00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:17.000 Yeah, I'm totally in support of you know keeping this legal and it's an outrage that they're using this. 00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:18.000 Nick, I see you came on. And living color, did you want to speak? 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.000 Thank you. 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:25.000 Oh, that was just to prove I was in the room. 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.000 I have nothing further to add. 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:28.000 Okay. 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:34.000 Okay. This is Colleen. I'm afraid I have to jump off, but I do support this. Okay. 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:43.000 Thank you, Pauline, for joining us. I appreciate your time tonight. We all do very much. 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:44.000 Go ahead, Harriet. I just want to do a time check. It's 535. 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:53.000 Yes, you do. Thank you. Okay. Bye. So the last… Okay, it's a short comment that may elucidate or may clear something up. 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:58.000 If I don't forget it in the meanwhile. Frank, correct me. 00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:03.000 Here's… 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:04.000 Okay. 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:24.000 If I don't have this right. It revokes… The First Rehab Act. But my understanding was in that very… process. It takes the teeth out from every subsequent act on disability. Is that not correct? 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:36.000 Oh, you know, I'm not a lawyer. Unfortunately, any of you know more about ADA and how it interacts with the Rehab Act. 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:46.000 Oh, I'm reading online about reading online Section 504 of the Federal Rehab Act of 1973. 00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:56.000 And what it talks about it is that it prohibits entities that receive federal funding from discriminating based upon disability. 00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:06.000 And it gives an example. If it prevents a hospital from denying an organ transplant to people because they have a disability. 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:18.000 So if 504 were to be repealed, it's not just educational rights. It is discrimination In programs that receive federal funding, which includes health care. 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:23.000 Education. And wait a minute. 00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:24.000 Employment, of course. 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:35.000 Employment, that was the third one. That's a lot of that's a lot of not goodness. 00:31:35.000 --> 00:32:04.000 And we all know that our current federal Mr. Trump is threatening to take federal funding away from all different programs and different communities based on some of his new new beliefs and beliefs and If the 504 went away that could really 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:11.000 It could be catastrophic to so many people. Because who would then get to decide who gets a transplant? 00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:15.000 What disability is or isn't okay for a transplant. Can you imagine? 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:24.000 So it's not just education or going into a nursing home. 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.000 Sheila, you look like you're ready to talk. 00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:48.000 Oh, no, but I will just add a little bit from what I've seen in the schools, the kinds of services that are provided under 504 I think someone said it earlier, more like accommodations, sometimes for more medical issues You know, a child has hearing difficulty it's that they can be, you know, sit in the front row to be able to hear the teacher 00:32:48.000 --> 00:33:04.000 A child might just have something reason that they need to use the elevator in the school. There are a lot of things and they're not necessarily costly things, but it protects the right of the student to ask for that and to be granted those special accommodations and 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:25.000 To take them away, and a lot of those kids are in gen ed classes but need something, some accommodation within that class and And very often they are not They don't rise to the level of some of the special education services students get with academic assistance and things like that. 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:37.000 But they're so important to kids. Just to be able to get a proper education, as they say, a fair and adequate education. 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:51.000 You know, it's it's just for an item that is not at all terribly costly to most communities it's just a fairness policy to allow those kids to get what they need. 00:33:51.000 --> 00:34:08.000 To be able to get through school and so I wholeheartedly agree with whatever action we decide to take. I'm not quite sure what form that should be, but You know, it feels that we need to do something. You know, what happens usually in Massachusetts is the people that we would 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:18.000 You know, we can talk, just send something to our federal delegation, but most of them I'm going to expect on the same pages we are. 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:29.000 So trying to reach the people need to be convinced is more of a challenge. 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:33.000 Yeah. 00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:43.000 So I'm reading some more news. And again, it talks about it 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:56.000 If this were to be abolished. The concern is that It could also say it could also say that protections for discrimination based on sex, race. 00:34:56.000 --> 00:35:01.000 Could also become the next target. 00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:08.000 But they see this as a slippery slope. Again, I'm paraphrasing what other people are saying. 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:20.000 The the this is why… we wanted to bring this to the body to discuss and to see what we as the Disability Commission within Somerville can do. 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:31.000 And I think it's important that we bring this to the attention of our municipal government and ask them to take action, to make a statement. 00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:36.000 Just like our city has and so many other times and so many other vulnerable populations. 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:44.000 And other things that are going on. 00:35:44.000 --> 00:36:09.000 This is Deborah. Might it be useful to ask the city to make a proclamation that Even in the event of a repeal of Section 504, that they are committed to providing services consistent with 504 legislation plans. 00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:20.000 I think a proclamation is a great idea. I'm looking at the draft resolution that is going tonight. 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:28.000 Through the city the school committee? 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:34.000 I think that both of those ideas. 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:42.000 Are fantastic. Thank you, Deborah. 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:49.000 Oh, sorry, Frank. You had your hand raised. Apologize. 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:58.000 I have to unmute. Okay. So I was wondering if that resolution is something that maybe the commission could sign on to. 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.000 Just a thought. 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.000 Which resolution, sweetie? Oh. 00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:09.000 The school committee. Yeah, do you have the text in front of you, Holly? 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:14.000 I would have to see if it is attached as a meeting document. 00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:27.000 So that we could see exactly what we are signing on to because I just have the Google version. So let me take a look. 00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:36.000 Any other ideas? I mean, I personally think that we should put something out there. 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:43.000 As the commission. And I think we should ask to get put on the next city council's meeting. 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:56.000 And have an item on there. Which the legislative group can can work through. 00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:57.000 Is that a motion? 00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:01.000 Which is myself, Helen, Sheila, and Rasheed. 00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:04.000 I'm sorry, I missed the last part of what you said. This is Harry. 00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:10.000 So our legislative group, which is myself, Sheila. Helen and Mersheed. 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:25.000 Can work through. A member of city council to add us to the agenda and to work with them on either a proclamation or a resolution, whichever they feel is appropriate. Hi, Sheila. 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:34.000 Just a quick question. Do you know if the city council is taking any action as the school committee is tonight? I believe they're voting on it tonight. 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:39.000 Have we heard anything from the city council about a similar action being taken. 00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:45.000 I have not. But that would be the first thing that we would want to ask. 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:50.000 But I feel we should we should have something posted on our webpage. 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:54.000 Yes. 00:38:54.000 --> 00:39:13.000 And I think that the submervable papers should also be posting things about this. I have not seen Somerville's news pick up on the 504. I only saw an article in Forbes maybe the globe But I think it's important we need people to know what's happening. 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:19.000 And Anne and mary 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:26.000 It's nice to have residents here in the meeting. Were you here tonight because of this item on the agenda? 00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:27.000 Oh. 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:41.000 Not this item, no. Hi, my name is Anne. I'm here because if you're going to be an item for the street and sidewalk safety? 00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:44.000 Huh? Yes. Is that on the agenda? Okay. 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:45.000 Of course, Harriet. 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:51.000 May I ask a question? So are you a part of SAS? Is that right? 00:39:51.000 --> 00:40:12.000 No, my name is Anne Kumar. I'm a 48-year resident of Somerville and I am on the Union Square Neighborhood Council, but I thought there was going to be a street and sidewalk for not on this agenda okay We got a message that it was, okay, thank you. 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:13.000 Through the chair. Should be. 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:19.000 Mary, one second, Herod. Mary, are you also part of the Union Square Group? 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:20.000 Yes. 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:23.000 Well, thank you both for being here tonight and um 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:26.000 And Matt's seeing your action too, or math senior action, so… Okay. Thank you. 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:39.000 Is… 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:40.000 Go ahead, Harriet. 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:48.000 Do we have a visitor? I thought Megan Smith was here tonight or did I just… Dream that. 00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:59.000 Megan Smith is here and we have Anne. Stefanson? 00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:00.000 And? 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:04.000 Harriet, yes, I'm here listening in. Nice to see you. 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:05.000 Thank you. 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:11.000 Anne, are you also part of Union Square? 00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:16.000 No, I'm not. I'm part of Mass Senior Action. 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.000 Nice to meet all of you. Thank you for being here tonight. 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:24.000 Thank you. Thank you. 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:29.000 So you were alerted that we had an item regarding sidewalks. 00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:33.000 On our agenda tonight. 00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:48.000 Yes, we were. Yes, we were. It was just, you know, with the snow The Somerville sidewalks, which are difficult to begin with. 00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:53.000 Have become. Even more so. 00:41:53.000 --> 00:42:00.000 So that was our our impression was that there was a possibility for us to be on your agenda. 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:01.000 Yeah. 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:10.000 I'm sorry. We have about 15 minutes left to talk through And vote on what we're going to do next about the 504. 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:11.000 Yeah. 00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:13.000 Yeah. Yeah. 00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:28.000 And, um. We can talk outside of this about the sidewalks. I would like to add that I I also am concerned. I'm sure everyone here is. 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:34.000 It's been a terrible winter. It doesn't seem to be getting any better. Things are melting and then freezing. 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:44.000 And it's very dangerous. For cars and people who walk and people who use mobility devices and wheelchairs. It's so narrow and dangerous. 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:48.000 Right. 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:53.000 Thank you for making time. I'm sorry that that wasn't on our agenda tonight. 00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:58.000 Well. 00:42:58.000 --> 00:42:59.000 Yes, Harry, please go ahead. 00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:07.000 Holly? Through you, which doesn't mean we can't have this as an item on another agenda. 00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:17.000 If the commissioners and you and others would like to discuss it. Is that correct, Holly? 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:36.000 Correct. I'm going to put in the chat. My email. 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:49.000 And this is Harriet through the chair. And in the interim, I can announce that our next meeting And though the agenda isn't fully set is on the 11th of March. 00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:55.000 And anyone can come to our meetings and maybe we can put this on an agenda. Let's see. 00:43:55.000 --> 00:44:01.000 Absolutely. So I put my email H. Simeone at Mac.com. 00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:02.000 Thank you. 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:17.000 If you want to reach out to me later tonight or tomorrow we can discuss that with you. 00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:25.000 We're going to go right back to go away to the matter at hand. 00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:29.000 Harry, do you want to take a vote that Do you want to propose a motion? 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:37.000 Yeah. Yeah. This is Harriet through the chair. I'd like to make a motion that we draft. 00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:42.000 A letter. 00:44:42.000 --> 00:45:01.000 I think, but I mean, to the mayor's… office and to the city council. I'm not sure about the exactitude but As a commission, all of us or any of us in favor of communicating with city government 00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:31.000 To… Request… city declaration or city support For… um not allowing or I forget the right wording but so that The city itself says… we take on supporting that 504 shall not be Repealed. Now, please. 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:40.000 Through you, Holly to Holly, correct my wording. I'm just trying to think on my feet. 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:41.000 Well, anyone second it for me. 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:47.000 I think it was perfect. I will second it. I never second everything, anything. And Michael will second it. 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:48.000 No, I'm asking if there's a discussion before we second it and vote. 00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:53.000 Looks like we have. Oh. 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:57.000 Absolutely. We have a second and open up for discussion. 00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:17.000 Because this is Michael. I would like to, so there were two things one Would that preclude Holly and the committee going to the meeting and asking, because that's what I thought you were going to go to the meeting and ask for something like that. Because I think going in person would be stronger than 00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:28.000 Sending a letter. But I also like the… Do the chair. I love what Deborah said. I thought Debra's idea was fantastic. 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:41.000 To see about, you know, are they willing to go to the… level of saying Yes, we will still support people with disabilities if something bad does happen. 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:48.000 So I would want to add that as well. That would just be the two things I would say. 00:46:48.000 --> 00:47:05.000 Thank you for that feedback and input, Michael. Would anyone else like to add to the discussion. 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:06.000 These do. 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:12.000 Okay, I'm just going to restate what you, your motion, Harriet And that is that we as the commission 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:37.000 Will reach out, we'll draft a letter to the mayor and to city council And that we want them to create either a resolution or a proclamation to ensure that students, persons with disabilities people's rights as far as employment, education, healthcare will not change. 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:46.000 Within the city of Somerville. And work with us to draft either a proclamation or a resolution to that. 00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:54.000 I do not have the scales to draft a resolution or a proclamation that needs to be done by a member of city council. 00:47:54.000 --> 00:48:03.000 Member of the mayor's team, however that may be. And I feel like the legislative group should be the one to draft a very simple letter. 00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:10.000 As the commission stating these facts. So that's the first piece, Michael. 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:20.000 And then I feel we need another motion about what you added, Michael. 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:30.000 So we have a second. There isn't any other discussion. I'm going to put it to a vote 00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:36.000 My piece of paper with my list. 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:39.000 Okay, Michael. 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:47.000 So I do apologize, though. I think the way you stated it sounded like What I did add on is that, would that be correct? 00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:48.000 So that's a separate piece that we'll vote on? 00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:57.000 The way you stated it just now. Okay, because it sounded like what you just said was what it was that I was saying about a proclamation that it would continue. 00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.000 If something happened. 00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:04.000 Yes, we want. So yes, I restated it that there would be either a proclamation or a resolution. 00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:10.000 But you also mentioned did that mean that the members could or could not appear in city council? And I wanted us to discuss that piece separately. 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:14.000 Oh, okay. Gotcha. Okay. 00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:18.000 Okay, we have one, yes. Helen. Harriet. 00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:21.000 Yes. 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:22.000 Nick? Sheila. 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:23.000 Yes. 00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:24.000 Yep. 00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.000 Yes. 00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:27.000 Laurie. Ingrid. 00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:30.000 Yes. 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:31.000 Yes. 00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:33.000 Deborah. And I am also a yes. Okay. So the motion passes. 00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:38.000 Yes. 00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:56.000 I would also, yes. Applauds to everyone applause for all of us. I would like to add a second another motion onto what Michael said that um Actually, I don't know if I need to make an emotion. I think it's very important what Michael said. 00:49:56.000 --> 00:50:03.000 About can we go to city council When this gets hopefully put on the agenda. 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:08.000 And um 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:27.000 We can go to city council as residents and as many resident members of this commission And people, including Mary and anne And there was one other person who was on the phone a minute ago advocating about the sidewalks. I think 00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:38.000 Everyone who shows up is very important. The more people that are in front in a city council meeting gives us a lot of strength and power in our voices. 00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:47.000 The matter will either be addressed by myself or Harriet in person, the chair or the vice chair will read that to city council. 00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:53.000 But I think that everyone who anyone who would like to be there is always welcome. 00:50:53.000 --> 00:51:01.000 We are not going to deliberate this topic in that room as a group. 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:06.000 And I think we've pretty much deliberated and discussed what our action is. 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:14.000 Going forward. But we just want to be mindful that we would not be deliberating as a group or voting. 00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:17.000 At City Council or outside of any of our meetings. So I guess I don't need a motion but michael i love that you asked that question. 00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:24.000 Right. 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:30.000 And Deborah, I love that you added the pieces about the proclamation and the resolution. 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:35.000 And unless anyone else has anything else on this topic. 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:42.000 We are three minutes before six o'clock. 00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:49.000 And so ladies, I did put my email in there. Please reach out to me so we can talk about what you'd like us to engage in. 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:54.000 Looks like all of our members are shaking heads. Yes, we'd like to have you come back at our March meeting. 00:51:54.000 --> 00:52:03.000 And we'll see how we can see how we can Collaborate on that. 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:04.000 And Mr. Schatz. 00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:05.000 Thank you. 00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:17.000 This is Michael again. I know I've been very vocal this meeting. But I just want to say, can you imagine if all the states that weren't on that list made this kind of proclamation? 00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:26.000 I mean, we would be making such a statement. So if other states are not doing it, if we were to start it and let people know that we're doing this. 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:33.000 I think it would make a movement that would 00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:41.000 Adrian, can you assist us with the comms team or can Hawken? 00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:47.000 So what exactly do you want from the comps team, just so I'm clear before I start that assistance? 00:52:47.000 --> 00:53:07.000 Absolutely. Once we have this letter drafted. Our statement that we do not support the abolishment of the 504 We would like that to be part of our website and if other departments decide to pick that up or the mayor does or put that in other places within the city. 00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:12.000 I think it's very important. So that's the conversation we'd like to have. 00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:24.000 Okay, that is, from my understanding, a simple request. That I will do through hawkin Once the letter is drafted and ready to be sent. 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:50.000 To the mayor's office. It would be… best practice If either that was sent by Holly to the mayor's contact and city council contact both have general emails and then I was copied so i was aware And then once that was done, I would put in that request with Hawken. 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:55.000 Do you have any other suggestions? As far as sharing this. 00:53:55.000 --> 00:54:02.000 I think based on the discussion I've heard here. And I was taking minutes. 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:13.000 You've probably picked the best avenue um obviously the mayor and city council have to decide what they want to do with it. 00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:23.000 As Holly did mention, anybody as a resident is free to reach out to the respective city councilor or an at-large counselor. 00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:32.000 Once this is sent to say. I'm aware that this has been sent and however you want to start that conversation with that person based on your relationship. 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:36.000 They should be all aware since it will be sent to their email address. 00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:44.000 And I think that's probably a good starting point. I do want to echo and I cannot remember who said it. 00:54:44.000 --> 00:55:01.000 That you all should be aware or if you go this evening to see what direction the resolution that the school committee is taking Because just from an advocacy standpoint, in general, there is strength in numbers, particularly when coming from multiple 00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:13.000 Entities or bodies within a municipality. And it does, from my experience, just observing, does look stronger for a bigger collective effort. 00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:27.000 That could possibly happen between city council and the school committee. But that entirely depends on how that all goes, but I would encourage you just to see those of you who can attend what that discussion is around their resolution. 00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:28.000 Thank you. 00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:37.000 Thank you, Adrian. And we do need one more vote. You need a motion to allow me to speak as the chair tonight. 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:53.000 At the school committee meeting that we strongly urge We are in support of their proclamation or resolution for our Somerville students. 00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:55.000 And to sign on to that. Proclamation. 00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:58.000 So good. 00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:07.000 Okay, any discussion, any comments? Okay, we have a second. 00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:08.000 Boyman, can we be sent the link? Can you send us the link to the meeting or I don't know, whatever. 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:13.000 Here we go. Michael, how do you vote? 00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:16.000 For me. All right. Go ahead. Roll call. 00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:17.000 Michael? Helen? 00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:20.000 This is Michael. I… 00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:21.000 Harriet. Nick, Sheila. 00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:22.000 Yes. 00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:23.000 Yes. 00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:24.000 Yep. 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:25.000 Yes. 00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:26.000 Laurie Ingrid. Deborah. 00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:28.000 Yes. 00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.000 Yes. 00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:33.000 And Harriet. Sorry. And Holly. 00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:35.000 Yes. Yes. 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:40.000 And I forget myself okay All votes are in favor. 00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:46.000 Thank you all for joining. Thank you, all of our guests tonight. 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:50.000 Everyone have a good night. Drive safely. Hopefully I will see you. 00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:55.000 You have to register to even in person give public comments if you decide to give a comment as a resident, not as a member of the commission. 00:56:55.000 --> 00:57:05.000 Bye