1 00:00:07,706 --> 00:00:10,142 earlier this hour you saw 2 00:00:10,142 --> 00:00:10,776 secretary of state Antony 3 00:00:10,776 --> 00:00:11,643 blinken meeting with the 4 00:00:11,643 --> 00:00:12,845 Palestinian authority president 5 00:00:12,845 --> 00:00:14,580 Mahmoud abbas, the trip coming 6 00:00:14,580 --> 00:00:16,515 at a time of increasing violence 7 00:00:16,515 --> 00:00:18,150 in the region, including seven 8 00:00:18,150 --> 00:00:19,485 dead after an attacker opened 9 00:00:19,485 --> 00:00:23,922 fire outside of a Jerusalem 10 00:00:23,922 --> 00:00:27,493 synagogue and at least nine 11 00:00:27,493 --> 00:00:27,993 Palestinians dead. 12 00:00:27,993 --> 00:00:30,996 I want to bring in a former 13 00:00:30,996 --> 00:00:32,030 state department Middle East 14 00:00:32,030 --> 00:00:33,599 negotiator Aaron David Miller a 15 00:00:33,599 --> 00:00:35,934 senior fellow at the Carnegie 16 00:00:35,934 --> 00:00:36,535 endowment. 17 00:00:36,535 --> 00:00:37,970 We are waiting to hear any 18 00:00:37,970 --> 00:00:39,104 moment now from secretary 19 00:00:39,104 --> 00:00:40,806 blinken as he is going to hold a 20 00:00:40,806 --> 00:00:41,473 press conference. 21 00:00:41,473 --> 00:00:42,541 This is not the trip that he 22 00:00:42,541 --> 00:00:43,542 thought he was going to be 23 00:00:43,542 --> 00:00:44,676 getting when they planned this, 24 00:00:44,676 --> 00:00:46,011 and now he's going there. 25 00:00:46,011 --> 00:00:48,547 It's a time of such high 26 00:00:48,547 --> 00:00:48,814 tension. 27 00:00:48,814 --> 00:00:51,717 What are you expecting to hear 28 00:00:51,717 --> 00:00:52,551 from him? 29 00:00:52,551 --> 00:00:54,119 >> I think it's a really tough 30 00:00:54,119 --> 00:00:56,054 lift, and I think, kaitlan, that 31 00:00:56,054 --> 00:00:57,489 in order to analyze this 32 00:00:57,489 --> 00:00:59,124 correctly you have to see the 33 00:00:59,124 --> 00:01:00,559 blinken trip as part of a 34 00:01:00,559 --> 00:01:03,061 broader piece. 35 00:01:03,061 --> 00:01:04,963 In the last month this new 36 00:01:04,963 --> 00:01:08,567 Israeli government, you've seen 37 00:01:08,567 --> 00:01:10,869 an administration engage more 38 00:01:10,869 --> 00:01:13,472 frequently, intensely and at a 39 00:01:13,472 --> 00:01:14,806 senior level with the 40 00:01:14,806 --> 00:01:15,207 government. 41 00:01:15,207 --> 00:01:16,575 No administration Republican or 42 00:01:16,575 --> 00:01:18,043 Democrat that I ever worked for 43 00:01:18,043 --> 00:01:19,244 engaged in this kind of 44 00:01:19,244 --> 00:01:19,611 diplomacy. 45 00:01:19,611 --> 00:01:20,979 I think it reflects their 46 00:01:20,979 --> 00:01:22,681 concern, but it also reflects 47 00:01:22,681 --> 00:01:23,815 the reality that I think they 48 00:01:23,815 --> 00:01:25,117 want to take the prime minister 49 00:01:25,117 --> 00:01:26,084 at his word. 50 00:01:26,084 --> 00:01:27,719 He put together this government 51 00:01:27,719 --> 00:01:29,621 which includes two extremist 52 00:01:29,621 --> 00:01:31,323 ministers and I think by 53 00:01:31,323 --> 00:01:32,791 engaging him directly they want 54 00:01:32,791 --> 00:01:35,294 to make it unmistakably clear 55 00:01:35,294 --> 00:01:36,261 that he is responsible for the 56 00:01:36,261 --> 00:01:37,462 actions of his government, but 57 00:01:37,462 --> 00:01:39,031 on the trip it's going to be 58 00:01:39,031 --> 00:01:41,233 very difficult for blinken to 59 00:01:41,233 --> 00:01:44,102 get steps by both sides to 60 00:01:44,102 --> 00:01:46,238 deescalate, let alone guarantee 61 00:01:46,238 --> 00:01:48,774 that we could stabilize a very 62 00:01:48,774 --> 00:01:50,676 volatile situation between 63 00:01:50,676 --> 00:01:51,343 Israelis and Palestinians. 64 00:01:51,343 --> 00:01:53,145 >> I wonder what you think all 65 00:01:53,145 --> 00:01:55,147 of this escalation and violence 66 00:01:55,147 --> 00:01:56,815 that has happened in the last 67 00:01:56,815 --> 00:01:58,617 month since blinken planned his 68 00:01:58,617 --> 00:02:00,786 trip ties into what would be 69 00:02:00,786 --> 00:02:04,756 Netanyahu's sort of biggest goal 70 00:02:04,756 --> 00:02:07,693 in far as furthering the Abraham 71 00:02:07,693 --> 00:02:09,361 accord, relations with Saudi 72 00:02:09,361 --> 00:02:09,695 Arabia. 73 00:02:09,695 --> 00:02:10,896 You said there is no pathway out 74 00:02:10,896 --> 00:02:11,863 of this cul-de-sac. 75 00:02:11,863 --> 00:02:14,166 >> They are in a strategic 76 00:02:14,166 --> 00:02:16,868 cul-de-sac and I think that, you 77 00:02:16,868 --> 00:02:18,904 know, you have a perfect storm 78 00:02:18,904 --> 00:02:19,338 here. 79 00:02:19,338 --> 00:02:21,440 You have a 56-year-old Israeli 80 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,241 occupation, a Palestinian 81 00:02:22,241 --> 00:02:23,875 authority that's weakening, 82 00:02:23,875 --> 00:02:26,645 losing control, you've got arms 83 00:02:26,645 --> 00:02:29,748 groups tied to hamas and 84 00:02:29,748 --> 00:02:30,649 Palestinian still planning 85 00:02:30,649 --> 00:02:31,950 attacks and you have the new 86 00:02:31,950 --> 00:02:32,651 government. 87 00:02:32,651 --> 00:02:34,019 Netanyahu's key priority, tip 88 00:02:34,019 --> 00:02:36,655 owe nile was right, all politics 89 00:02:36,655 --> 00:02:40,125 are local, he put together this 90 00:02:40,125 --> 00:02:41,660 government to pass legislation 91 00:02:41,660 --> 00:02:43,929 to nullify, immunize himself 92 00:02:43,929 --> 00:02:45,030 from his ongoing trial. 93 00:02:45,030 --> 00:02:48,667 That's why he needs these two 94 00:02:48,667 --> 00:02:51,069 extremists. 95 00:02:51,069 --> 00:02:55,440 65 stiets in the knesset and 96 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,675 they have leverage over him. 97 00:02:56,675 --> 00:02:58,744 It's going to affect the Abraham 98 00:02:58,744 --> 00:02:59,911 accords as well. 99 00:02:59,911 --> 00:03:00,712 >> What do you think you're 100 00:03:00,712 --> 00:03:02,681 going to hear from blinken next? 101 00:03:02,681 --> 00:03:04,683 What are you going to hear from 102 00:03:04,683 --> 00:03:04,816 him? 103 00:03:04,816 --> 00:03:07,252 >> He's going to talk about a 104 00:03:07,252 --> 00:03:08,687 two-state solution, talk about 105 00:03:08,687 --> 00:03:09,988 the importance of Palestinian 106 00:03:09,988 --> 00:03:11,623 dignity and security and 107 00:03:11,623 --> 00:03:12,291 Palestinian rights. 108 00:03:12,291 --> 00:03:15,894 If he's lucky, I think this will 109 00:03:15,894 --> 00:03:18,697 probably be a stretch, maybe he 110 00:03:18,697 --> 00:03:21,099 could get Mahmoud abbas to 111 00:03:21,099 --> 00:03:22,834 recommit to security cooperation 112 00:03:22,834 --> 00:03:24,169 with the Israelis but I think 113 00:03:24,169 --> 00:03:25,103 that's going to be very 114 00:03:25,103 --> 00:03:25,671 difficult. 115 00:03:25,671 --> 00:03:26,705 It's a tough lift. 116 00:03:26,705 --> 00:03:27,572 It's a mission impossible. 117 00:03:27,572 --> 00:03:28,874 >> It is a tough lift and it has 118 00:03:28,874 --> 00:03:30,075 not been the top of the priority 119 00:03:30,075 --> 00:03:31,343 list for the Biden 120 00:03:31,343 --> 00:03:31,810 administration. 121 00:03:31,810 --> 00:03:32,778 They've been dealing with China, 122 00:03:32,778 --> 00:03:34,713 with what's happening in 123 00:03:34,713 --> 00:03:34,946 Ukraine. 124 00:03:34,946 --> 00:03:37,149 Aaron David Miller, we wait to