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because they were further away

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and the crown prince turned his

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head when Peter Alexander asked

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him if he would apologize to

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Jamal khashoggi's family.

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He looked at the reporters, did

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not answer, John.

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>> Thank you for your

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reporting.

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I want to bring into the

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conversation the former state

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department negotiator David

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Miller.

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Help me on this day, you cut

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your teeth back in the Jim

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baker days. Sometimes you have

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to meet with the bad guy,

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sometimes you have to meet with

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the bad guy to get things done.

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Put this into context for us.

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>> It's true, one picture is

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worth 1000 words.

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In this case it's probably

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worth $1 million.

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The Saudi's got what they

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wanted and so did Mohammed bin

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Salman.

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Endorsement of the president of

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the United States.

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I think there is a sense of

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victory and elation, you saw

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how quickly they released these

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photos.

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The question I would ask you,

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John, because I don't think

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there's an answer, will Joe

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Biden get what he needs?

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Out of oil, Ukraine, Russian,

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human rights, not to put too

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fine a point on it before years

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after Jamal khashoggi's murder

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and dismemberment, there's no

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accountability , and it strikes

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me not only do we have ongoing

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Saudi repression, but Mohammed

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bin Salman got away with

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murder, so the question is

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reciprocity, John.

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Will the Saudi's begin to

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change as a consequence of our

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engagement?

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Values may not be that

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important in the scheme of