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>>> There's growing concern over

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president trump's attacks on the

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U.S. Postal service as he

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continues to lie about the level

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of fraud with mail-in ballots.

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House speaker Nancy Pelosi is

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now calling back her members to

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address this situation.

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Joining us now is David Feinman,

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former chairman of the U.S.

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Postal service board of

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governors.

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Mr. Feinman, you're the person

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perfect to talk to this morning,

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because you know how this works

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and you know that the board of

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governors is suggesting this

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extra $25 billion to make the

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postal service run well enough

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by the election, but let me just

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start by saying how concerned

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are you that president trump

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will successfully cut enough

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funding and slow roll the

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process to affect the election?

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>> Well, like every other

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American, I'm concerned about

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there being a fair election.

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I also serve as chairman of the

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board of fair elections center,

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and we work diligently to make

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sure that everybody gets a right

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to vote.

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I think that at the end of the

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day, he's going to realize that

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he can't get away with this, and

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we're going to have a fair

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election, and the postal service

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will step up to the task, you

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know, all the people who work

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for the postal service, they're

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hard-working people, over 3,000

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of them were stricken with

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Corona, 60 of them have died so

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far, but they're going to step

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up to the task and it will get

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done.

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It will get done --

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>> Sorry to interrupt, but he's

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already getting away with it.

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It's already happening.

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He's cut overtime.

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He's done away with hundreds of

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mail sorting machines.

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There is a woman on the front

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page of the "New York Times"

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yesterday there was a story of,

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this is just one example a woman

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in the Philadelphia area who has

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gotten her mail twice in three

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weeks.

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You just heard senator Amy

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klobuchar say people have

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written in how much slower their

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mail service is.

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It's already happening.

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>> It's a disgrace.

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It is a disgrace as to what is

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occurring, and at the bottom

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line, let's talk first of all

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about what the postal service

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does.

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It delivers mail to every

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American six days a week.

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They can be in rural America or

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in the city.

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I used to serve with governor

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Ned mcwerter from Tennessee, he

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talked about delivering mail in

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Greene county, Tennessee, and

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I'd talk to him about delivering

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mail in a rural house in

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Philadelphia, where I was

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brought up, and those people in

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rural America and those people

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in those row houses in

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Philadelphia they're waiting for

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their prescription drugs.

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They're waiting for their

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checks, and this has got to

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stop.

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It's got to end, and it's got to

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end now.

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If he wanted to implement

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certain changes, this was not

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the time to do it.

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>> Yes.

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>> This was not the time.

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In the middle of a pandemic.

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>> I understand what you're

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saying ethically.

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President trump is on the record

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not wanting mail-in balance the

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los, so he can implementing

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changes via dejoy where it is

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already happening.

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Those folks that you're talking

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about in the row houses and

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rural America, they're not

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getting their mail in the way

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that they were months ago.

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So it's already happening, and

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look, as you know, the board of

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governors on which you were the

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chair is asking for $25 billion.

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If they don't -- but president,

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the Republicans are not close to

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that number and president trump

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doesn't want any money.

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If they don't get it, is it

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going to work on election day?

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How can you be so sure that

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mail-in balance lots will be

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delivered on time?

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>> I believe at the end of the

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day, president trump is going to

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give in and he's going to give

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the money that's necessary.

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Why?

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Because this is just, you know,

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it becomes at some point in time

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where you realize you made a

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mistake.

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Somebody made a mistake here.

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Let me go back, if I can, for

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just one minute and talk to you

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about the history of the postal

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service.

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In 1971, the postal service was

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reorganized so that it would be

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non-partisan and would not be

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affected by the president of the

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United States.

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It's five people of one party on

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the board and four of another.

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When I was on the board, I

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served during the administration

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of president Clinton, and I

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served during the administration

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of president bush, was actually

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the chairman during that period

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of time.

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>> Yes.

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>> I never heard from the

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president of the United States.

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What's going on now is

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unprecedented.

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As a practicing lawyer I find it

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offensive.

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>> Well, times have changed

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because president trump is

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talking to postmaster dejoy,

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though he claimed he hadn't, and

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there is a discrepancy about

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what they said in that August

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phone call.

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Very quickly, let me read to you

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what president trump says now

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"Absentee ballots are fine.

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A person has to go through a

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process to get and use them.

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Mail-in voting on the other hand

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will lead to the most corrupt

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election in usa history.

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Bad things happen with mail-ins.

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Just look at the special

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election in Patterson, new

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Jersey, 19% of ballots a fraud!"

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So look, there's fact checking

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that can be done there but

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quickly, your final word, what

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do you want the president to

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know about that?

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>> I want the president to show

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us some evidence.

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You know, as a federal judge in

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Pennsylvania said, why don't you

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show us the evidence that there

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is fraud.

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Mail-in ballots do not produce

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fraud.

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Mail-in balance ballots are safe

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and create a fair election.

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>> David Fineman we appreciate