1 00:00:08,856 --> 00:00:13,394 >> Like a eye. Hope it goes 2 00:00:13,394 --> 00:00:14,428 away and I would fully expect 3 00:00:14,428 --> 00:00:14,995 that it does. I think 4 00:00:14,995 --> 00:00:15,696 ultimately this is going to 5 00:00:15,696 --> 00:00:20,534 be. 6 00:00:20,534 --> 00:00:21,235 >> It's going to be good for 7 00:00:21,235 --> 00:00:21,836 that. The beginning of 8 00:00:21,836 --> 00:00:25,606 professional golf. 9 00:00:25,606 --> 00:00:27,041 >> That was 4 time major 10 00:00:27,041 --> 00:00:27,842 winner Rory Mcilroy weighing 11 00:00:27,842 --> 00:00:29,176 in on the merger between the 12 00:00:29,176 --> 00:00:30,261 PGA Tour and LIV the Saudi 13 00:00:30,261 --> 00:00:34,014 backed off to war. Welcome 14 00:00:34,014 --> 00:00:36,267 back. Number of players spoke 15 00:00:36,267 --> 00:00:37,017 out after the whole ordeal 16 00:00:37,017 --> 00:00:38,652 went down and they said they 17 00:00:38,652 --> 00:00:40,855 felt betrayed for folks who 18 00:00:40,855 --> 00:00:41,589 like off because it's relaxing 19 00:00:41,589 --> 00:00:43,390 and leaves early. They were in 20 00:00:43,390 --> 00:00:45,326 for a lot of drama yesterday. 21 00:00:45,326 --> 00:00:47,094 We told you last night about 22 00:00:47,094 --> 00:00:49,163 the merger between the PGA and 23 00:00:49,163 --> 00:00:49,780 LIV Golf tonight in our 24 00:00:49,780 --> 00:00:52,032 Scripps News Focus, we want to 25 00:00:52,032 --> 00:00:55,536 take you behind the headlines 26 00:00:55,536 --> 00:00:56,270 and look into why Saudi Arabia 27 00:00:56,270 --> 00:00:58,906 is aiming to become a major 28 00:00:58,906 --> 00:01:01,375 player on the global sport 29 00:01:01,375 --> 00:01:02,076 stage. Their stake in golf is 30 00:01:02,076 --> 00:01:03,444 part of an ongoing investment 31 00:01:03,444 --> 00:01:05,029 in sports in 2021, the 32 00:01:05,029 --> 00:01:06,947 country's public investment 33 00:01:06,947 --> 00:01:09,533 fund, but English soccer team 34 00:01:09,533 --> 00:01:11,452 Newcastle United and Saudi 35 00:01:11,452 --> 00:01:12,653 Arabia has recently hosted 36 00:01:12,653 --> 00:01:13,687 major sporting events to 37 00:01:13,687 --> 00:01:16,457 including Formula One races. I 38 00:01:16,457 --> 00:01:18,792 want to bring in Ben Freeman 39 00:01:18,792 --> 00:01:19,593 to go a bit deeper on this. 40 00:01:19,593 --> 00:01:23,264 He's a research fellow at the 41 00:01:23,264 --> 00:01:23,981 Quincy Institute for 42 00:01:23,981 --> 00:01:25,099 Responsible Statecraft and an 43 00:01:25,099 --> 00:01:27,168 expert in foreign influence 44 00:01:27,168 --> 00:01:30,204 been he told The Guardian, the 45 00:01:30,204 --> 00:01:32,239 PGA live merger is the biggest 46 00:01:32,239 --> 00:01:33,040 sports washing when that an 47 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,842 author tearing regime is 48 00:01:34,842 --> 00:01:36,744 overhead. Saudi Arabia will 49 00:01:36,744 --> 00:01:37,494 provide billions of dollars to 50 00:01:37,494 --> 00:01:40,497 this new golf tour, which even 51 00:01:40,497 --> 00:01:42,750 critics say will help the 52 00:01:42,750 --> 00:01:45,002 sport. What is it exactly that 53 00:01:45,002 --> 00:01:45,753 the Saudis are aiming to get 54 00:01:45,753 --> 00:01:50,291 out of this deal? 55 00:01:50,291 --> 00:01:51,759 >> For for the Saudis, but 56 00:01:51,759 --> 00:01:56,363 they're hoping to do is to buy 57 00:01:56,363 --> 00:01:57,464 and to the international game 58 00:01:57,464 --> 00:01:59,733 of golf, not just buy in to to 59 00:01:59,733 --> 00:02:00,434 completely by effectively by 60 00:02:00,434 --> 00:02:02,570 the global gave a call. And 61 00:02:02,570 --> 00:02:04,572 the whole reason they're doing 62 00:02:04,572 --> 00:02:06,824 this thing they can talk 63 00:02:06,824 --> 00:02:09,076 about, you know, helping 64 00:02:09,076 --> 00:02:09,827 promote the game of golf with 65 00:02:09,827 --> 00:02:11,612 in Saudi Arabia, but 66 00:02:11,612 --> 00:02:13,697 ultimately big goal is to 67 00:02:13,697 --> 00:02:14,481 change their image abroad. And 68 00:02:14,481 --> 00:02:16,700 so that when folks think of 69 00:02:16,700 --> 00:02:17,451 Saudi Arabia, you don't think 70 00:02:17,451 --> 00:02:18,552 of the murder of Jamal 71 00:02:18,552 --> 00:02:19,220 Khashoggi. They don't think 72 00:02:19,220 --> 00:02:20,054 about the Yen war. The 73 00:02:20,054 --> 00:02:23,123 Saudis want think about Paul 74 00:02:23,123 --> 00:02:24,959 associate Saudi Arabia with 75 00:02:24,959 --> 00:02:26,460 Formula One all the other 76 00:02:26,460 --> 00:02:28,195 sports, the Saudis, mess 77 00:02:28,195 --> 00:02:31,065 today. And that's why I told 78 00:02:31,065 --> 00:02:32,199 The Guardian that this really 79 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:32,900 is the crown jewel of the 80 00:02:32,900 --> 00:02:37,938 Saudis for watching camping. 81 00:02:37,938 --> 00:02:38,872 >> Yes, so it sounds like 82 00:02:38,872 --> 00:02:39,540 you're saying it's textbook 83 00:02:39,540 --> 00:02:40,791 sports washing that that 84 00:02:40,791 --> 00:02:46,380 they're trying to do here. 85 00:02:46,380 --> 00:02:47,047 >> Yeah. And that's exactly 86 00:02:47,047 --> 00:02:48,649 right. We see this with a lot 87 00:02:48,649 --> 00:02:50,718 of other countries to, you 88 00:02:50,718 --> 00:02:52,803 know, you can turn on the 89 00:02:52,803 --> 00:02:53,687 French Open these days and you 90 00:02:53,687 --> 00:02:56,624 see an ad for the United Arab 91 00:02:56,624 --> 00:02:58,459 and the Russians do it. The 92 00:02:58,459 --> 00:02:59,059 Chinese plenty of other 93 00:02:59,059 --> 00:03:00,628 authoritarian regimes do it. 94 00:03:00,628 --> 00:03:01,879 But I think what the Saudis 95 00:03:01,879 --> 00:03:03,380 did today sorry, earlier this 96 00:03:03,380 --> 00:03:08,269 week. I think it's really the 97 00:03:08,269 --> 00:03:10,888 crown jewel of any country 98 00:03:10,888 --> 00:03:11,639 since we're watching operation 99 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,576 that there's no Louisville 100 00:03:15,576 --> 00:03:16,327 Sports enterprise that is now 101 00:03:16,327 --> 00:03:17,077 has dominated by authoritarian 102 00:03:17,077 --> 00:03:20,080 you as a game called it. 103 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,015 >> We look at some of their 104 00:03:21,015 --> 00:03:23,150 other sports investments, the 105 00:03:23,150 --> 00:03:24,885 Saudi Public Investment Fund 106 00:03:24,885 --> 00:03:25,552 has brought several of the 107 00:03:25,552 --> 00:03:27,221 country's soccer teams and has 108 00:03:27,221 --> 00:03:27,855 help bring major sporting 109 00:03:27,855 --> 00:03:30,924 events of the country. It even 110 00:03:30,924 --> 00:03:31,692 looked into buying Formula One 111 00:03:31,692 --> 00:03:34,561 for 20 billion dollars is 112 00:03:34,561 --> 00:03:36,096 golf. Just the tip of the 113 00:03:36,096 --> 00:03:36,897 iceberg with their ambitions 114 00:03:36,897 --> 00:03:41,852 into sports. 115 00:03:41,852 --> 00:03:44,605 >> I think it is. We've really 116 00:03:44,605 --> 00:03:47,675 seen this in in the last 10 117 00:03:47,675 --> 00:03:48,909 years or so. There are few 118 00:03:48,909 --> 00:03:49,877 sports they really haven't 119 00:03:49,877 --> 00:03:52,646 expressing interest. And I 120 00:03:52,646 --> 00:03:55,683 mean, we mention Formula One 121 00:03:55,683 --> 00:03:56,417 and they're also very involved 122 00:03:56,417 --> 00:03:57,117 with the the World Wrestling 123 00:03:57,117 --> 00:04:01,121 Federation here. The WWE he 124 00:04:01,121 --> 00:04:01,822 regularly bring wrestlers to 125 00:04:01,822 --> 00:04:04,958 Saudi Arabia you. There 126 00:04:04,958 --> 00:04:06,927 >> They've gone into bike, 127 00:04:06,927 --> 00:04:07,728 racing, even surfing. You 128 00:04:07,728 --> 00:04:08,395 know, the World Surf League 129 00:04:08,395 --> 00:04:11,632 been courted by the Saudis. So 130 00:04:11,632 --> 00:04:12,299 when you name it just about 131 00:04:12,299 --> 00:04:14,501 any sport, you can think of 132 00:04:14,501 --> 00:04:15,219 the Saudis are trying to 133 00:04:15,219 --> 00:04:20,708 invest in that interim. And to 134 00:04:20,708 --> 00:04:21,408 use that word is part of the 135 00:04:21,408 --> 00:04:21,975 reputation laundering 136 00:04:21,975 --> 00:04:26,146 campaign. 137 00:04:26,146 --> 00:04:27,448 >> I want get some historical 138 00:04:27,448 --> 00:04:28,732 perspective here because we're 139 00:04:28,732 --> 00:04:29,483 focused on Saudi Arabia. But 140 00:04:29,483 --> 00:04:32,653 I'm curious to know, has any 141 00:04:32,653 --> 00:04:33,987 country in recent history been 142 00:04:33,987 --> 00:04:35,823 successful at sports washing 143 00:04:35,823 --> 00:04:37,925 thinking about the Olympics. 144 00:04:37,925 --> 00:04:39,293 I'm thinking about cops are 145 00:04:39,293 --> 00:04:40,160 being accused of it with last 146 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,895 year's World Cup as any 147 00:04:41,895 --> 00:04:43,931 country been successful at 148 00:04:43,931 --> 00:04:46,266 sports washing in the way that 149 00:04:46,266 --> 00:04:46,967 we're we're seeing Saudi 150 00:04:46,967 --> 00:04:51,805 Arabia. 151 00:04:51,805 --> 00:04:55,943 >> I think you can. You can 152 00:04:55,943 --> 00:04:56,693 never make an argument that 153 00:04:56,693 --> 00:04:57,444 the Saudis are right now. I'm 154 00:04:57,444 --> 00:04:58,946 in we just think back to 155 00:04:58,946 --> 00:05:00,447 recent history, it was just a 156 00:05:00,447 --> 00:05:03,784 few years ago that the Saudis 157 00:05:03,784 --> 00:05:04,451 were were absolutely black. 158 00:05:04,451 --> 00:05:06,453 All of the world stage because 159 00:05:06,453 --> 00:05:07,204 of the and his murder of Jamal 160 00:05:07,204 --> 00:05:10,958 Khashoggi. And we have 161 00:05:10,958 --> 00:05:13,961 multiple lobbying businesses, 162 00:05:13,961 --> 00:05:14,711 cutting ties with sports 163 00:05:14,711 --> 00:05:15,462 teams, you know, cutting ties 164 00:05:15,462 --> 00:05:17,965 with him, too. And in just a 165 00:05:17,965 --> 00:05:19,967 few years later, I were 166 00:05:19,967 --> 00:05:20,734 talking about the Saudis 167 00:05:20,734 --> 00:05:23,170 effectively owning the game 168 00:05:23,170 --> 00:05:27,474 will call. I think that's an 169 00:05:27,474 --> 00:05:27,875 extraordinary turnaround. 170 00:05:27,875 --> 00:05:29,726 Arguably the Saudi sports 171 00:05:29,726 --> 00:05:30,844 washing campaign is working 172 00:05:30,844 --> 00:05:33,347 people are buying into this 173 00:05:33,347 --> 00:05:34,047 and they're turning a blind 174 00:05:34,047 --> 00:05:34,748 eye to human rights abuses of 175 00:05:34,748 --> 00:05:39,136 the regime. 176 00:05:39,136 --> 00:05:39,887 >> Ben Freeman from the Quincy 177 00:05:39,887 --> 00:05:40,637 Institute, many thanks for 178 00:05:40,637 --> 00:05:43,090 your insight into this.