Originally Posted by Crag Cay It always amuses me that boat designers have this fascination with these complex formulae and their inherent trade offs. For all this information to be accessible to the buying public, it should be presented to them in answer to all the natural questions they have when looking for boat. If these guys don?t really know how to interpret those data, how do you expect the average buyer to do it? STIX has the advantage of simplicity in its interpretation, the bigger the better, and even if far from perfection, it can give you an approximate idea of the boat?s stability. Originally Posted by Antonio Alcala .I am convinced of it because I sail 28 years ago, and the last 8 sailing alone. Regarding STIX and Class A bots, I was not talking about Maximum Security, but about Minimum requirements for a Class A boat.
Only AVS has to be taken with care because it usually gives values under the real thing, as it doesn't take into account volumes over deck.
I find STIX a much more misleading info than 'Old' ratios, as we have seen thoroughly through this thread. If you have examples to support your statement with numbers, I'd appreciate your posting here.
Originally Posted by Vega overestimating the average knowledge of the typical boat buyer.
If all the input data for STIX was available to prospective buyers, they could make informed choices trading off good and bad points between boats. By the way, at YW magazine's last issue there is a nice comparative analysis of Dehler 44, Grand Soleil 43 and Maxi 1300, and STIX is not even mentioned for any of them.
Location: Portugal Stix in the Vellux 5 Oceans Could anybody bring us, the stability curves and STIX of the Vellux 5 Oceans 60 feet?. Location: Portugal About Beneteaus Here you have a complete list of Beneteau, except some models, with their STIX. A sailing boat is a boat propelled partly or entirely by sails.The generic term covers a variety of boats, larger than small vessels such assailboards and smaller than sailing ships, but distinctions in the size are not strictly defined and what constitutes a sailing ship, sailboat, or a smaller vessel varies by region and maritime culture.
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Club 420 Sailboat sail boat sailing boat, View Sailboat, Dafman Product Details from Qingdao OSIC International Co., Ltd. Use of any of the images on websites re-distributing copyright free material is strictly prohibited. The figures are available anyway, so wouldn't require more disclosure by the manufactures, but at the moment the relevancy of this information is lost when stirred together into the 'pot purri' of STIX or Categorisation.
So let's build on this second point by developing an information system that is accessible, meaningful, workable and allows the consumer to really make sound choices in the boats they want to buy. The sellers will not have a clue about what you are talking about and the boat manufacturers don?t disclose that information to the public. Fact is that even professional specialized press, completely disregard the information about safety stability in the boats they are testing for their magazines. Those were very inaccurate tools that are only applicable (and very roughly) to a certain type of boat.
Two different boats with the same number,and one of them is going to look obviously more suitable for the conditions in mind to the prospective customer. These basic numbers arent always available and old ratios are therefore difficult to compute when consumers really want to compare boats.
Beneteaus are rather conceived as light, comfortable (home-like) and relatively cheap coastal cruisers than all weather bluewater globetrotters. We designed our Stringer system design based on the before and after results both the Capt.


If you require further details regarding the transaction data, please contact the supplier directly. These images can be used on any given URL or website and a link back to this site must be provided. Even the British press that usually publish the GZ or RM curves of the boats they test, don?t make any comments about them, neither when they are very bad, nor extremely good. I've studied both the Final Report of the Directors and the Inquiry about the '79 Fastnet Race and I find the approach to the CSF formula at the report (named 'capsize screen value' there) to be very valid. Buyers are more likely to understand a boats character and make a reasonable judgement, without this new layer of calculations. If it is so difficult to obtain basic data for a boat in the market now, a new emperical number defining stability is not needed.
I'll try to join info from other manufactures going the other way round (as Pacific Seacraft, i.e) and post it here. If this free picture image will be used on a website, a hyperlink to camerasnaps is required.Please comply with the terms and limitations of use. I dare to say that more useful info than just knowing the STIX, if one knows what to look at. Very impressive too how much of them have Category CE A, and however score with a minimum limit of ISO STIX 12217. Help to maintain this site by adding to your favourites and referring this site to a friend. There are many small coastal cruisers that are used just for a day's sailing, pottering around the beautiful coastline of Britain. If the buyer is reading new boat reviews, they have money, and reading graphs goes with the territory.
But far meaningless than STIX (regarding stability assessment) were what Guillermo calls ?Old Ratios?. Oceanis 473 is a bulbeb keeler and her 'Old ratios' give a pretty good idea about the boat.



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