Lie-Nielsen Toolworks continues to turn back the clock (a good thing in the world of hand-tool woodworking).
The bench will be more expensive than the two styles now offered by Lie-Nielsen, a European bench starting at $2,000, and a David Charlesworth-style bench for $1,500. But if you’ve seen these benches at shows or in other shops, you know that the quality justifies the wait. Chris is a contributing editor to Popular Woodworking Magazine and the publisher at Lost Art Press.
Very interesting to see how quickly after being reintroduced by The Schwarz that Roubo went more or less mainstream. When Roy Underhill went to a Shaker Village, he showed some footage of a Roubo bench, and the leg vise was particularly interesting. Even if they don’t sell thousands of these benches, at least thousands of woodworkers will see this bench and, hopefully, be drawn to its design. I loved your book, but the one thing you didn’t explain was how to build a bench for hand tool (or power tool) woodworking using hand tools without having a bench to work on. In all seriousness, there are several reasons I am really glad they are offering this bench, and it really looks like a wonderful bench. At long last, it looks like someone is offering a bench for sale that is as good as one you can make yourself.
You know, having a lot of catalogs (wish books?) can trigger consumer behavior not quite intended by the company – buy lumber and build your own workbench.
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Highland Woodworking Gift Certificates An awesome present that's always appreciated by just about any woodworker anywhere. This past weekend, several staff members from Highland Woodworking had the opportunity to attend the Lie-Nielsen Toolworks Open House at their factory showroom in Warren, Maine. As you can see from this MAP of Lie-Nielsen, they fully utilized their spacious campus for the Open House, with most of the fun occurring both upstairs and downstairs in the Demonstration Building.
Toyohisa Sugita of Japan demonstrating his clever magnetic jig for precise sawing of hand tool joints.
Kevin Drake of Glen-Drake Toolworks demoing his new spindle turning skews as well as his unique dovetail saws, hammers and extremely popular Titemark Marking Gauge. (Highland is considering adding to our product line some of his other fine handtools as well). Steve Chappell exhibited his line of precision stainless steel squares, which include some that are designed especially for timber framers. Garrett Hack, a furniture maker and contributor to Fine Woodworking magazine, had a demonstration bench where he was building a beautiful side table, featuring his famous inlay work. Tom Lie-Nielsen trying out one of the bows made by a student at the Center for Furniture Craftmanship. Several instructors and students were on hand with their pieces from the Center for Furniture Craftmanship, which is located just a few miles from Lie-Nielsen Toolworks.
CLICK HERE to visit our photo gallery from the demonstrations presented at the Lie-Nielsen Toolworks Open House. CLICK HERE to visit our photo gallery of the Lie-Nielsen Factory Tour, showing the process of how they make their exquisite hand tools. Woodcraft, the Parkersburg, West Virginia company that sells woodworking tools by mail-order and through a national network of retail stores, recently introduced a new line of planes under the Wood River name. Seems a lot of Knots posters think the Wood River planes look too much like those built by Lie-Nielsen Toolworks, makers of top-quality bench planes, and founded over 25 years ago in Maine by Tom Lie-Nielsen. But, a number of other posters suggested that both Wood River and Lie-Nielsen have a common ancestor in the Bedrock planes made by Stanley from the late 1890s until the early 1940s. With the measuring tools in hand, it became obvious that Lie-Nielsen made several improvements to the old Bedrock. Then, too, a few years ago, he improved the chipbreaker, making it thicker to help reduce blade-chatter.
Also, when it comes to the frogs, the one on the Wood River is closer to the Lie-Nielsen version than to the Bedrock. Copying is not new or unique to the tool trade, nor is having tools made in China to reduce cost.

Eric_Rucker writes: I just scanned all of the comments and I am appalled by the egocentric, whining rationalizing that passes for thinking here. Let's pretend for the sake of argument that WR and L-N products are equivalent quality and don't violate intellectual property law (if it was really about copying Stanley, WR tools would have molds pulled from them and look like Stanleys). We need to put our house in order, brother and sister woodworkers: we are clearly not listening to the trees in the wood we work, or to our hearts as they work through our hands. In this global economy, it's difficult to buy anything that is completely "made in America". Several of the tools I have on my want list were originally manufactured in England, and I will be proud to use them in my shop. There will always be demand, and dare I say need for low cost, entry-level tools; and these tools have ALWAYS been made in the third world. I have an Ace Hardware private label Millers Falls plane from 1993 that was made with the same care for design, material and workmanship as my old 1985 Ford Mustang.
As for patent protection, Thomas Lie-Nielsen has no patents on his bench planes, and if he did he would be entitled to the full coverage of protection afforded to patent holders in exchange for disclosing his innovations and putting them in the public domain at the end of the term of the patent. That said, there are NO patent infringement or trade dress or copyright issues in this situation, even IF WC copied the LN product.
CTWoodWkr writes: I don't understand Lie-Nielsen's recent decision to only sell their tools directly to customers and discontinue selling through retailers such as Woodcraft.
You can also purchase fully fettled USA Stanleys from a dealer who prides himself on his restorations and getting them "scary sharp". Without question I am of the opinion that at around $A50.00 plus half an afternoon's work you end up with a quality plane with character - some of my earlier restorations are type 9's and they still perform very well.
My comment is this - the old planes are great and cheap provided you are prepared to do some work. JBAR60 writes: My gradpa always told me to buy the best tool you can aford and learn how to use it properly and take good care of it and it will always pay you back.
I have gradually replaced almost all the bargain tools I once owned and the results are that I enjoy woodworking much more and my wife now asks me to make things around for our home.
BloomingtonMike writes: At $110, the WoodRiver No 4 is not half the price of a Lie Nielsen No 4 ($300), it is closer to one third.
Lie Nielson took the Stanley planes, improved many ideas of them, and then charges us you for them. If LN was really as into the needs of WWs of the world, maybe they could have reached more of them by doing exactly what Woodcraft did.
I choose what I use mostly based on "fit for purpose", sometimes more biased on price, sometimes biased on availability - always based on value. I don't buy Lie-Nielsen equipment because it won't satisfy all my needs -In my circumstances I can't balance the price against my need other need of value. The bench is quite similar to the version I built for Woodworking Magazine, with a few exceptions.
The company has temporarily suspended taking orders for benches until it can reduce the waiting list, which Thomas says is now at about nine months. I saw a drill press table in a Rockler catalog, and for less than $15 of materials, built my own, saving at least $85, plus shipping, gotta remember the damn shipping. Whirligig Comments We carry a wide selection of lie in Nielsen Tools from Lie Carl Nielsen Chisels to dwell Carl Nielsen Planes lie nielsen woodworking. In it he examines the notion of the artist's 'eye', and how it applies to woodworking craftsmanship. In addition to the knowledgeable Lie-Nielsen staff showing off the use and care of all of their tools, the event also hosted 15 elite toolmakers and woodworkers from all over the world, who were there to demonstrate and share their own products and works within the hand tool realm. By the way you can go to her website and sign up for a FREE introductory membership in her online woodcarving school. She will also be teaching a weekend Fundamentals of Woodcarving class at Highland December 7-8, 2013.
His seminal book on the subject, Mouldings in Practice, was recently published by the Lost Art Press. In addition to his many other classes, he is actively signing up students to participate in the The Windsor Historical Society project.
Keep your eye out for a more detailed feature about this exhibition in a future entry on the Highland Woodworking blog.
These planes, made in China, have generated a lot of interest and debate on Knots, our online woodworking forum. And, he added a shallow lip on the business end, ground to a 1º angle, to help ensure gap-free contact. On the Lie-Nielsen, the wood knob mounts to a double boss; the Bedrock has a single boss surrounded by a raised ring.
It’s up to each of us to decide just how comfortable we are with those facts of life. Too little debate about the substantive issues raised by what Woodcraft has done and a whole lot of chatter about first-world personal economic ends justifying any means necessary, though nobody was honest enough with themselves to state it that clearly. Maybe they are amazingly cheap for a company that respects its workers and environmental laws.
I have made a career out of manufacturing, and would hazard a guess that many of the machine tools used to fabricate LN products (and those of others) were purchased from overseas manufacturers.

However I won't buy Woodriver tools which are obvious Chinese copies of Lie-Nielsen planes.
If anything, LN might like to consider that there is a market for a less expensive version of their tools. Brian Boggs was so broke when he first started, he made his first chisel from a screwdriver and would recycle pieces of fence for constructing work benches - none of this expensive Chinese made tools that cost over a hundred dollars.
I don't have the skills to completely evaluate a plane's dimensions and correct the defects nor am I interested in developing those skills.
The same with Auriou rasps - they really are that much better and my works shows it, plus it feels so much better using these tools. Sell two lines (offer an imported mfg line as well) - extreme quality and then almost extreme quality. I am happy to tune my equipment as I have acquired skills and mastered techniques I would not have otherwise learned and I don't consider this metalwork over woodwork I view this as all part of the same hobby. I take more time and use a Stanley Plane which will satisfy both my need for a good result (quality) versus my need for value. The two ends of the base are a bit different , there’s extra stretchers in there to attach the top, plus cross-bolts that allow the bench to be knocked down. Lie Nielsen Toolworks makers of woodwork handtools of superior quality and LIE Carl August Nielsen handwriting TOOLS.
In my last video iodine walked through the out of the box trial run of my new WoodRiver 3 plane.
Both events were a great way to learn more about all of the Lie-Nielsen tools that we sell at Highland Woodworking, in addition to the culture and work that goes into the making of each tool. Highland may carry this jig in the future.) His website is all in Japanese, but has a lot of great pictures of his various jigs. Indeed, both makers state in their catalog that their bench plane designs are rooted in the original Bedrock.
Too many of the comments boiled down to distorted notions of what each of us thinks we can "afford." Huh.
I have bought several of the Wood River planes and they seems to perform very well, I also have several old Stanley flea-market finds that I have tuned and sharpened and they do fine.
Lie-Nielsen Toolworks is an American company employing American craftsmen producing very high quality tools. A US manufactured, less expensive LN product would blow WR out of the water, and provide American jobs.
It was enough to learn how to sharpen tools and then to use them properly and to pick the right tool. Marc Spagnola suggests that woodworkers are fine engineers that work in wood - I totally agree with this view. Not to mention using up some of the melamine left over from my work table and router table projects.
Also, Lie-Nielsen introduced some current technology by using stress-relieved ductile-iron for the casting, with manganese-bronze as an option.
And then we have the gall to whine that we can't afford the true price of the tools we do need to do your jobs or pursue our hobbies? I know that I will never have any trouble re-selling my planes, and that they will last my lifetime. This is an accessory not shown in Roubo, but is very handy for securing wide panels and doors.
Maybe Chinese workers and the Chinese environment are being asked to "afford" living conditions none of us would remotely tolerate. Of course, the price is higher than a Chinese knock off but quality and value not price should be the priority when purchasing woodworking tools.
Maybe prevailing winds send Chinese pollution to our west coast where most of our food is grown, so we get sick too, like our Chinese brothers and sisters, et cetera. Everyday I try to educate my clients about my handcrafted furniture and why they should buy quality and value from a local craftsman. To top it off, now I have a better understanding of how to take care of it for years to come. And we still continue to think of affordability in terms of our wallets, and even then we get it wrong because we don't connect our wallet-based illusions to the medical bills for cancers and other things like unemployment, when our to our actions at the cash registers of the world are part of the drain on our wallets. It would be incredibly hypercritical to build their furniture using imported tools made with cheap foreign labor. And thank you Taunton for doing such a great job driving the cycles of mindless desire that drive mindless consumption.
When we demand to buy on low price alone we end up cheating ourselves and our fellow Americans.

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