Pioneer DVR-810HS DVD Recorder with TiVo Basic Service
Buy 510H-S for Editing Out Commercials
I bought 510H-S ([...]) and I am very happy with it.<BR>810H-S has TiVo, which is why you cannot edit out commercials. 510H doesn't have TiVo, and you can edit out commercials. But since I already have a TiVo, it's OK to me. I set up the recording using Tivo's Season Ticket and wish list, and check ToDo list. If there are programs worth recording in ToDo list, then I program 510H using Timer. 510H's timer is not bad. Actually, as a simple timer its user interface is quite good. But it's no TiVo. You can also program using VCR Plus, which I don't use. Comparing video quality, I think that Pioneer is slightly better than TiVo Series 2. Since 510H-S has complete editing functionality, it is more difficult to use at first time. It was one of the electronic products that forced me to read the manual and take time to get used to it. It was frustrating for a few days. But now, it's OK. I know what is going on. While I can hear hard disk noise from TiVo, I cannot hear 510H's disk noise at all. I highly recommend 510H-S. But be prepared to read the manual and to have some practice time for a few days. And it will take a week or two to get used to it.<BR>An ideal DVR would be TiVo's user friendliness and convinience plus 510H's full editing functionality. But unless TiVo relaxes restrictions on the rules of recording to DVD, it is unlikely to come. So it is your choice: Tivo feature or full editing ?