Philips DVDR615 DVD Recorder
I tried top and bottom Philips DVD Recorders
The DVDR615 was better left in the store I also tried the DVDR80/17, top dog of the Philips line.  As stated by other reviewers &quot;when&quot; it would write a disk &quot;maybe and just maybe&quot; it could read it.  This goes for both of the machines.  I upgraded the firmware three times all together and still no good they offer this online service.  If they got it right before the sale maybe they would not have to upgrade so often.  I gave up after 5 bad recordings and one good one on the 615.  On the 80 I only lost 7 out of 15 DVD recorded.  At about $2 per item or more DVDs don't come cheap but the troubles do.  I will give Philips an A+ on their customer service, they are really helpful and do a great job they get a lot of practice.  I just wish I had not gotten to know them almost by voice.  I go to order a different brand because the DVD recorder is in my house to stay just not a Philips.