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So, by entering into a relationship with the university, the mascot now represents an actual Seminole figure, and wears (close to) traditional Seminole regalia, made by tribal members.
In summary, while the mascot is far from being respectful in my opinion, at least the tribe is gaining both economic and social benefits from engaging in this relationship. In 2005, the tribe passed a resolution supporting the university’s use of the Seminole name, logos and images, including Osceola and Renegade.
Simply put, Florida State University is humbled and honored by the privilege of representing a group of people whose courage and spirit we admire and respect. Rob, I should have known you would have something on this issue–what an awesome resource! I think I would only start to have respect for FSU if they started to develop and implement curricula that would teach Seminole language, history, and traditions.
Apparently there are only 200 speakers of the Muscogee language left in Florida today, (according to Wikipedia), so if FSU directed resources toward preserving that linguistic heritage and exposing a significant amount of the student body to it, that could be a really positive step.
Anyway, various tribes do what can be done to develop the people and the reservation lands: some people go to college, some participate in politics, some open up casinos for revenue, some become teachers for primary and secondary schools, and more. Since this is the internet, many people could be seeing this and simply agreeing with it and enforcing a Native American ethnic identity, civil rights for more people, and other stuff. There seems to be some people who take valuable lessons from this blog, particularly for some people who deal with issues concerning relations to non-Native Americans. As for concrete measures, I can only name a few for Southwest tribes, but I’m too tired to put it out at the moment. The prevailing argument seems to be that as long as tribal council approves then it is acceptable to portray Seminoles, particularly a historic figure, through this mascot.
That doesn’t change the fact that you were dismissing the fully legitimate concerns of Native peoples. Well, you could have talked to me and won me over, but instead you want me to be quiet and not interrupt the comfort of your Groupthink. Adrienne, one of my students brought this up in class this past summer and I wish I had this post back then!
Why exactly is the university so obsessed with having the Seminole group represent the college and its sports? About Native AppropriationsNative Appropriations is a forum for discussing representations of Native peoples, including stereotypes, cultural appropriation, news, activism, and more.
Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Native Appropriations by Adrienne Keene is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. As most of you know, FSU is updating it’s logo and has been working alongside Nike for the better part of two years to design it.

At first I was completely open to the idea of change with many mock-ups swirling around the blog-o-sphere. Yet the logo that has been released (accidentally) to the public seems to go a different route.
From my understanding, the Seminole Nation was a major driving force in updating the logo as they felt it gave a negative light on their people. So in hopes of giving it a more appealing look and feel that wanted to give it the expression of celebration or joy.
The press this logo has garnered has not been the response the University was hoping to receive. Numerous online petitions have sprung up requesting the University to not go ahead with these changes, but those requests may fall on deaf ears if this update is being spear-headed (no pun intended) by the Seminole Nation. I’m asking the Seminole Faithful, the Unconquered Army, the true fans of Florida State to use this as a call to arms. Let’s rally around our school, our athletic program, our athletes and show them the support they so richly deserve due to the amount of time, effort, and energy they put into bringing those accolades to Tallahassee.
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I saw images of those ridiculous billboards last week, and my immediate thought was that this is a significant consequence of the Seminole Tribe of Florida buddying-up with FSU. During this time students organized a formal proposal to the University of creating a muli-department Native American Studies Program.
Only the first has a relationship with FSU, the others have either voiced opposition to the mascot or have not said anything (ie- Miccosukees).
Unfortunately, this does not take into consideration of Seminoles who are not on tribal council. Again, you have no frame of reference, so leave the discussion to the people actually affected by the issue.
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You have read and agree to the Global Shipping Program terms and conditions - opens in a new window or tab. Import charges previously quoted are subject to change if you increase you maximum bid amount. The Seminole Tribe of Florida then officially gave their permission to use Osceola as the mascot, letting FSU get a waiver from the NCAA rule. The president of the university also established full scholarships for Seminole students (though only 8 Seminole students have graduated in the history of the school), a Seminole color guard brings in the flag at commencement, and the tribe was recently honored at homecoming. The program would require hiring one additional proffesor to head up the program, this person would have been the only Native faculty at FSU. Excerpts and links may be used, provided that full and clear credit is given with appropriate and specific direction to the original content. If you reside in an EU member state besides UK, import VAT on this purchase is not recoverable. The Seminole of FL are also one of the most successful gaming tribes in the US, and my personal opinion is that keeping the state happy on the FSU front can only be good for relations around gaming contracts. Can you imagine if we expected all white folks to feel the same about a controversial issue…like gun control, for example?
I also think that it ties back into the dilemma I’ve brought up again and again–is it better to be completely invisible as Native people, or be misrepresented?
In the case of the Seminole tribe of Florida, they took the step to at least try and gain some control and power over how their people and community are represented.

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