Comments on: “Too Ethnic”? http://www.hsmagazine.net/2014/05/too-ethnic/ The PlayStation Home Magazine Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:20:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.2 By: Gary160974 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2014/05/too-ethnic/#comment-291605 Wed, 28 May 2014 05:37:23 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=61572#comment-291605 I think any outfit released on home will be put down to being a fashion item and nothing more. I have to agree though how anyone can say they are too ethic is beyond me. Bet if Lockwood called them something else like kingdom of elephant outfits they would buy them without a second thought. Skin tones is another issue some tones get you trolled and others are used by trolls so the easier option is to be inconspicuous.

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By: Kassadee Marie http://www.hsmagazine.net/2014/05/too-ethnic/#comment-291336 Sun, 25 May 2014 20:40:29 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=61572#comment-291336 Jin,

I keep thinking about this article and came back today and re-read it for the second (or maybe third) time. I think it’s one of your best pieces for style AND content. I just wish the world were different and you never had a reason to write it.

Thank you for standing up for what’s right.

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By: Jin Lovelace http://www.hsmagazine.net/2014/05/too-ethnic/#comment-291220 Fri, 23 May 2014 22:50:41 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=61572#comment-291220 I would wear them on Home. They look very cultural and one that can showcase awesome experience for Home users to don the fashions they normally have to pay a serious grip for!

Thanks, Terra! :D

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By: Kassadee Marie http://www.hsmagazine.net/2014/05/too-ethnic/#comment-291218 Fri, 23 May 2014 17:20:40 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=61572#comment-291218 I love the styles in those pictures and I would buy them the minute they were produced!

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By: Terra_Cide http://www.hsmagazine.net/2014/05/too-ethnic/#comment-291217 Fri, 23 May 2014 15:08:25 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=61572#comment-291217 I’m curious -- if, say, a developer created traditional or even derivative fashions from Africa (say in this image here (http://www.overlandingwestafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Beautiful-Gambia-Ladies.jpg) or even the West Indies (one of my closest friends is of Haitian/Creole decent: http://www.africasounds.com/Images2009/103108parade24wf.jpg), would you be interested in them, even if they might get some of the smaller details wrong, either due to limitations in Home, or lack of intimate experience or knowledge of the garments in particular?

I’m asking this because a good majority of Home’s developers are male and white, and I know this because I’ve either met or spoken with a lot of them one on one over the years. I can say with significant confidence that in the case of Lockwood, we do a fair serious bit of research into what we bring to Home and its fashions, but not everyone or everything is 100% foolproof.

(BTW, if you really want to get your ideas noticed with regards to fashions for people of color, post sample images of your ideas to the monthly suggestions thread Tempest Fire posts on the forum: http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Home/May-2014-Suggestions-Thread/td-p/43478944 This is where Lockwood got the idea to create Bollywood fashions. A great many people were posting and re-posting their desire to see these fashions realized.)

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By: Jin Lovelace http://www.hsmagazine.net/2014/05/too-ethnic/#comment-291212 Fri, 23 May 2014 06:44:31 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=61572#comment-291212 You’ll want to go to http://twilighttouchinc.com and check out my article “Shades of Ethnicity” which speaks on certain fashions on Home that conforms on darker-skinned avatars.

To be fair, the skin shades on Home aren’t truly accurate. No matter how hard I try to depict an Asian skin tone, no such color for it exists.

I’m all for racial equality. In fact, I still get different conversations when I get on as my darker-skinned avatar as pose to my lighter variant but both are depictions of me; I’m still the same regardless what color I am.

Thanks for your input!

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By: WindsweptSkye http://www.hsmagazine.net/2014/05/too-ethnic/#comment-291210 Fri, 23 May 2014 04:44:41 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=61572#comment-291210 Seconding this. I have a hard time finding outfits that suit me and my skin tone. (Let alone in a nice deep shade of blue, when female clothes in Home all tend to be white, pink, red or black, but that’s another story.) “Ooh, that outfit looks nice on her, maybe I’ll get it!” Then I get it and bam, it’s way too bright for dark skin, or clashes, or otherwise doesn’t work nearly as well as it did on the white girl. (Whether the white avi I saw wearing it, or the inevitably-white preview in the store, or whatever.)

Even makeup is pretty inaccessible (without coughing up a lot of money for Plus), since it’s calibrated for white girls and thus winds up being brighter than a black girl’s skin: put even a little bit on and you wind up looking like a clown, so you need a very careful touch on the slider.

There’s tons of ethnic clothing in Home! It’s just that almost all of it is American, Western European or Japanese; those are pretty much the only ethnicities represented.

Reading between the lines of complaints about “ethnic” things, and they’re basically either saying that they themselves are ethnically-neutral (which is a very ignorant/Privileged thing to say), or that only their own ethnicity matters (which is outright racist). And self-insulting too: it’d be like saying that men are genderless, or that English isn’t even a language. Go ahead and tell a guy that he’s “unmanly”, see how he likes it.

Sure, if you ask a white person, they’ll acknowledge that they’re white, but they normally don’t think of themselves in racial terms, they don’t claim a racial identity, because they don’t have to. Throw a black person in the mix and suddenly they have to think about race, and they don’t want to. (As though black people have that choice!)

But, take it as a challenge! Fashion for dark-skinned people works a little differently, which is an opportunity for designers. Deep, bold colors look great on black people, for example, or at least I think so.

(Now if only they’d have color-adjustable clothing in Home. Then nothing would ever be the wrong color!)

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