Comments on: Home 1.75 — A Growing Concern http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/ The PlayStation Home Magazine Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:20:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.2 By: Phoenix http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281688 Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:11:34 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281688 Spoken very well Burbie,
Why worry about something we can not control. We will just have to wait and see. If it turns out that patch is worse then the problem then complain. I personally have never backed up my PS3. I am a bit slow on those things. :) I hope none of the negative thing come to pass, but what can you? I am curious about the extras are.
Thanks Burbie for the insight!

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By: Gary160974 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281672 Fri, 25 Jan 2013 07:03:06 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281672 This core update just brings home in line with other social applications, which nearly every other one is cloud saved, and every other one has all access passes or VIP membership functions far in excess of what sony have introduced. Can the servers handle it, if the right equipment is there it can, the ps3 can handle it, your bandwidth might not though. Can it be successful, it is outside of home. just have to sit and wait.

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By: Home 1.75: What Needs to Be Said | HomeStation Magazine http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281663 Fri, 25 Jan 2013 03:13:13 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281663 […] HearItWow on Home 1.75 — A Growing Concern […]

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By: HearItWow http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281659 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 16:20:17 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281659 The exploiters still would have made noise, but then we’d know who’s who. Yes, Sony should have been clearer about that…something along the lines of, “We’re getting ripped off, so it turns out we need to lock things down a bit more.”

As for the cloud, once everything’s there the only thing that’s keeping Home from running on a PC or the PS4 is network access and a controller. I’ve speculated in the past that Home could move to the PS4 in its current form like this.

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By: ted2112 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281650 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:26:06 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281650 Great article Burbie, I think Sony’s lack of communication skills make people crazy, and when something like this happens we get all bent out of shape. It seems to me 1.75 is a natural progression in Home, and not a bad thing.

I don’t care for the plus thing, I feel that kind of cheapens the whole thing by introducing a class system, but that’s just my feeling.

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By: KLCgame http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281639 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 05:54:32 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281639 I still don’t think this is as bad of think as everyone is making it out to be. If people are so dang worried about the ise stuff (correct me if I’m wrong here) but that stuff is displayed in either “My purchases” or “My rewards” so, sorry to break it to you but that stuff is on the sever already and I but they aren’t so dumb that they see audi gear in a NA account & know it’s ise and if people get banned I’m sorry but I think the community is full of enough “big boys and girls” to know that they have to face their actions. (or the actions you paid some other guy to do)

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By: Burbie52 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281637 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 03:30:44 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281637 Actually no because the update doesn’t come til January 30 and he should be back by then.

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By: MsLiZa http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281635 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 03:04:38 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281635 How about releasing long-requested features such as expanded wardrobe save slots and hair colours to PS Plus subscribers only?

Are long-time, high-spending Home users typically subscribers of the Plus service? How many of these Home whales will add a Plus subscription to their already substantial Home budgets? And should they be expected to do so in order to obtain access to new “core” features?

Count me out.

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By: MsLiZa http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281634 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 02:53:36 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281634 So your ban has a silver lining, at least.

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By: Dr_Do-Little http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281633 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:58:59 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281633 I wanted to point out the good news we heard today about the new patch. Guess my post was too long already and I wanted to cut it short. Thanks for mentioning it, and the personal space loading time. Not too sure about it thou.
If only Sony had been honest about the “exploit” prevention. I’m sure there would had much less rants. I know it would had made a big difference for me.
Q? Could this cloud save may be a tryout for the PS4? Another thing that would had please user to know instead of upsetting them.

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By: HearItWow http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281632 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 22:44:55 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281632 If history is our guide, Home does not have a good track record with these major changes.

It started at launch, when the servers were so overwhelmed that no one could even log in. I expect similar problems during the massive data migration next week.

It continued during the hacking incident, when Sony released no meaningful information to its customers for a month.

It happens every Thursday, when promised items are missing from the store and performance issues dog new spaces and games.

With that history, and I’m just highlighting bits of it, it should be completely understandable that the community would react with suspicion and concern to a change that affects basic functionality.

To be fair, there should be a performance improvement with the new patch, but it only impacts personal spaces. Since the old model involved uploads directly from a player’s hard drive, and since upload speeds are typically slower than download speeds, loading a personal space will be faster, because we’ll only be downloading from a Sony server.

Other elements of this update raise some real questions. Users have lost the ability to have multiple avatar saves on USB, but they can now buy an extra 24 slots with PlayStation+. That’s not going to sit well with people. Multiple furniture layouts are gone completely. There is no indication of how and when our save data will be backed up, which really ought to be the first thing any cloud storage service communicates to its customers.

I fully understand Sony’s need to end ISE and xPloder exploits. People have been stealing content and sharing merges that are damaging to the service, and they’re well within their rights to store data in any way that they want. But at a certain point, their data storage practices may directly impact the ability of customers to access the content that they have purchased, or to use their content in a manner that they find acceptable. Sony loses a bit of their out in blaming Internet connections or corrupted hard drives when Home stops working, as the burden of data preservation has shifted from the end user to them.

Personally, I want to know that I’ll be able to access what I’ve paid for in the ways that I’m accustomed to using it. That means content doesn’t disappear, game progress isn’t suddenly lost, personal spaces aren’t locked out and furniture layouts don’t vanish without warning. Cloud storage gives me a few more things to worry about with Home that I didn’t need to worry about before. Good customer service would address those concerns now and let people like me know what to expect and what our remedies will be should something go wrong.

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By: Dr_Do-Little http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281631 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:58:41 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281631 Jersquall too couldn’t HIDE his CONCERN… sorry…

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By: Dr_Do-Little http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281630 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:54:28 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281630 Are you speculatin Burbie? Because there still no word from Sony about the cloud save being there to prevent ISE hack.

The official statement is still that it will “improve performance” Exactly the same way they once “improved furniture targeting”…
The difference is no one taking the bait this time. You don’t need a master in computer science to understand moving data from a local HDD to an obscure network will never “improve performance”

And thats my problem. Not only are we kept in the dark without any customer services. But when they do release some info it’s sugar coated with lies.

What happened last week-end is what we call in french. “The drop that overflow the vase (bowl?)”

First the annoucement (Sony’s lie) by Glass_Wall.
Second, he add this will only be a problem for a minority of users. Should I need to explain the market value of whales in this business? I think we had it explained in detail before here.
Third: His innapropriate reply to Julie_Love. A long time Home lover who created the Welcome commitee.

But wait, there’s more…

Saturday morning we found out our club furnitures layout didn’t showed up. Sorrow created a thread on the subjet and we were discussing the issue. We we’re worried yes, but agreed this will probably be fixed up monday. Then moderation strikes, moved the thread to support. We see that a lot now.
That reminded me of the F13 problem. Thread at first were quickly locked and deleted. Why they never said at the time they were switching Home to new server still baffle me.

But wait, there’s more…

I don’t expect the management team to log on on w-e. But G_W did. Did he post something like “Oh crap, sorry about that people, I will get you some answers as soon as I can Monday”? No. He kudoed a post about himself…

Sure we had our usual whiner with apocalyptic scheme. But Jersquall too couldn’t hise his concer about home missing a dedicated management. HearitWoW complained about the “no customer services” business model. We saw new faces with articulated arguments. Old veterans coming out the shadows.

Misinformation. Control of information. Absence of accountabilty. Silence when communication is needed. I spent a good part of my life and so much energy to fight that against school boards, company and governement. Moraly, I simply can’t go on like everything is good. I know Home is not a democracy, it’s a business. I’ll take my business elswere.

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By: FEMAELSTROM http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281621 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:38:54 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281621 Good read Burbie, here’s my take: we are on Sony’s playground. They make the rules. I give them money and I get virtual product. This isn’t life saving medication, this is an option, though a valued one for many, and for those that like to sit and ride the rage train,Sony, Home and the community that likes/loves Home will still be here. People will always complain about something. ALWAYS. I find that if Sony handed out free $100 cards to everybody, people would still complain that it’s not enough. My point, we’re in Sony’s land and have to take what’s dealt, like it or not, it’s part of being here. I am a huge fan of Home and choose to simply say, let’s do it and if there’s something bad…report it and it may get fixed, may not.But Home is so much more than any one element. In a month no one will remember the patch, the rage will calm and things will be back to normal. Let’s just log in, say ‘hey’ and have some fun, we all met here, and really, none of us are leaving anytime soon.

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By: KrazyFace http://www.hsmagazine.net/2013/01/home-1-75-a-growing-concern/#comment-281613 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:30:11 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=45100#comment-281613 This article had to be written, so well done bringing more attention to this Burbie. I’m not going to go on any kinda forum rant here ( I think I did that already anyway) but I’d say the most worrying thing about this latest update (and the massive impact it’ll have on Home) is how quiet Sony are being yet again.

When it comes to stuff like the PS4 their silence is akin to a knowing parent smiling knowingly at their child when they ask about birthday presents. But not here. Not with Home. With Home their silence is more like a policeman at a reception desk who’s blatantly ignoring you because you’re nothing more than a waste of time who doesn’t deserve even an acknowledgment. Least, that’s how it feels.

There are so many unanswered questions about the technicalities of what this patch even means for the end user and ALL of them remain unanswered regardless of the forums being full of questions. Worried isn’t quite the right word, it’s more like I’m in a state of petrified silence.

Of course, having been banned from the network, I’ll just have to sit back and watch the rest of the Homelings deal with any problems that might arise from the changes in the next week or so…

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