Comments on: The Lure of Virtual Pets http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/ The PlayStation Home Magazine Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:20:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.2 By: Burbie52 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-130151 Tue, 22 May 2012 12:12:51 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-130151 So sorry for your loss Norse. Pets become such a piece of our hearts that it hurts intensely when they are gone. I hope you do find solace in the fact that she is no longer in pain and that she obviously loved you as much as you loved her. My sympathies.

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By: KrazyFace http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-130102 Tue, 22 May 2012 09:33:52 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-130102 I’m sorry Norse, I had to stop reading your post about half way through because I’m at work and I could already feel myself welling up and it’s not a good look for dealing with the general public when you’ve got red eyes and a sniffy nose. But I completely understand the loss you’re feeling mate, and for that my sympathies are with you.

I remember when my childhood pet Mishka came home from being run over; she pulled herself home with her front paws (since her pelvis and back legs had been shattered) just so she could come to die with me. Cats have an intensity when they’re in their final stages, almost like they know what’s going happen after they’re gone.

I find it sad the family that had the Norsecat couldn’t compromise for her. As I said, Kitty was intensely jealous of our daughter, and seemed to take it out on my partner more than me, as if she knew that my partner had birthed this thing that was going to take away her position of most-loved-thing-in-the-house. And I won’t pretend I wasn’t concerned; when a cat starts taking claw-swipes at your infant child you have a parental drive that will make you re-evaluate the house-hold situation. My partner began to dislike Kitty and even see her as a threat to our child, and I gotta say, I did consider finding her a new family too, but what stopped me was the fact that I was already her rescuer and as such, responsible for her well being and future. Just because we can’t communicate in a verbal way with animals, doesn’t mean we can’t get our point across. I know why she was upset, and I had to somehow convince her she wasn’t going to be cast aside for this “new edition” rather than kick her out her home for being confused and jealous.

My daughter’s nearly 3 now and her and Kitty still fight about who gets to sit on me when I finally get to sit down myself, sometimes they compromise and they both smother me at the same time. Although there’s an obvious jealousy still in Kitty, I’ve made it clear that she’s still a part of our family and we have plenty of love to give her.

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By: deuce_for2 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-130048 Tue, 22 May 2012 06:32:42 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-130048 I feel for you. I have known people who have cried more for their pet dying than when their parents died. Death is an unwanted mandated detail to life. As I used to joke in high school, “The leading cause of death is birth.”

If you don’t mind, I would like to bring this back to the subject by saying as a creator of virtual pets, I saw no way of creating a bond that anyway resembled real life. The closest I came was that when you left the dog out when you left the apartment, he would come meet you at the door when you came back. I had plans to have them sit next to you when you sat on a couch, but we ran out of time. So he sits on the floor.

For me, the thing I miss most about not having a pet is the touching. The petting, the playing, them walking on you to get your attention. It is about having a thinking animal interacting with you in a physical way. Short of The Matrix, I have no idea how to recreate any of that in a virtual world.

Which, along with movement issues, lead me to create the Robotic Canine and the Robotic Feline. They feel to me exactly right. They do not react to me emotionally. They are not there to bring me back to what is important (“I know you just dented the car, but could you feed me?”). I am unclear as to how to make a true virtual friend.

For the foreseeable future, virtual friends are just toys. But, as I don’t have to tell you, you have attracted a lot of real friends. See you soon!

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By: NorseGamer http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-129994 Tue, 22 May 2012 04:21:06 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-129994 When I adopted the Norsecat from the shelter, she was between two and three years old; her prior owners had put her up for adoption because they’d just had a baby and the cat was jealous, spraying on the baby’s clothes and elsewhere.

I’ll never forget the Norsecat when I first met her. She was confused, hurt, depressed. She didn’t understand why she’d been abandoned. She gave nothing but love.

She was scheduled to be killed in the next day or two. Nobody wanted her.

There was no question that she was the one I was there to rescue.

That first night, after she got used to her new surroundings, I remember holding her on my lap. She was sleeping. One of my tears splashed on her fur and woke her up. She reached up with one paw and planted it on my shoulder, immediately concerned for *my* well-being. That was it. She and I bonded that first night.

And on the last night, twelve years later, she was on my chest. The inflammation had reached her brain. She’d just had a horrific bout of convulsions and seizures. She was all but blind. Her body wouldn’t stop flinching. She was cold. But she was lucid long enough for us to say our goodbyes to each other. She knew it was the end. So did I.

I miss her purr. Her voice. I held her as she went out. This house is empty without her. But at least she’s not in pain any more. She should have died half a year ago, and I spent a fortune to keep her going. It gave me six precious months with her that I’ll always cherish. But there comes a time when things simply…stop.

She’s immortalized in an HSM April Fools Day video. If you look closely, she’s already ill, and perilously thin. The eyes are sunken. She was already receiving medical treatments every other day at that point. But there was enough of her to still play. And for the longest time, she simply wondered *why* she was in pain. It was only at the end, when the pain was insurmountable, that she resigned herself to the fact that there was no coming back, no getting better. And I held her and loved her as her candle flickered out of this world.

I don’t know if any of this has anything to do with the article on virtual pets. Frankly I don’t care. After eighteen months of giving to the Home community, I can be forgiven a personal indulgence. She just died. I’ve had other pets before — other cats — but this was different. That cat was like a daughter to me. And I loved her.

If you’re ever blessed with the good fortune of being loved by a Korat, it’s like nothing else I can describe. It’s an intense, pure, unconditional love. Wherever she is now — whether I ever see her again or not — I hope she’s in a better life. She more than deserves it.

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By: KrazyFace http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-129062 Sun, 20 May 2012 12:04:06 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-129062 Oh my gawd! Yeap, “floppy, vocal, destructive, loving, green eyes” it all fits like Lego. Thanks for putting it in stone what breed she is guys. That last thing you said in your post keara; “tend to bond with one person, ignoring everyone else in the household” well, when my daughter was born Kitty went the huff with us for about 9 months! She was obviously jealous and knew what was coming lol

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By: keara22hi http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-121327 Thu, 03 May 2012 22:38:43 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-121327 Actually, the first Korat introduced into the United States was brought to New York by a TWA employee in 1963. Said kitten ripped the hell out of his apartment and shrieked at the top of her lungs whenever he was out of sight. He gave her to a friend -- quickly. In Thailand (point of origin for Korats), they are called Blue Siamese. When you cross-breed them with a seal point Siamese, you get 3 Blue point Siamese (3 times of out of a litter of 4) and one Korat. If you want a treat, look both of them up on Google images. The big difference between a Korat and a Russian Blue is the eyes: Korats have green eyes (like the cat in your photos, Norse), the Korat face is heart-shaped, and Korats are fine-boned and slightly smalled than the Russian Blue. And they are ‘floppy’ cats, beautiful to look at but clumsy, extremely vocal, and tend to bond with one person, ignoring everyone else in the household.

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By: NorseGamer http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-121315 Thu, 03 May 2012 21:43:03 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-121315 Korats tend to be slightly smaller than a typical housecat, but they’re solidly built. It’s one of the best ways to distinguish them from Russian Blues, which tend to be more dainty in construction.

The Norsecat, like Korats in general, is a very vocal creature. They’re crossbred with Siamese, so they’re highly intelligent, polysyllabic cats. And yeah, a hallmark of the breed is their, um, destructive floppiness. Living with a Korat is living with a cute but destructive force of klutziness. I’ve wanted to wring that cat’s neck for all the damage she’s caused, but she’s just such a *loving* fluffball that all is forgiven — particularly now that she’s near the end of her days.

For an example of the Norsecat in action, see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUZqslGWYTM

If Home companions ever become more interactive, I might end up revisiting them. Until then, they’re just another fashion accessory.

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By: KrazyFace http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-121306 Thu, 03 May 2012 20:48:37 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-121306 Wow. That’s erm, my cat! Uhmm, kinda. I have a rescue cat and I couldn’t figure out her breed. A friend of mine mentioned Korat but I always thought they were smaller. The stuff you said and the pictures though… Scary. Is she vocal too? My Kitty goes on like she’s talking to you sometimes (yeah Kitty, the guy I got her from had a wealth of imagination) and she’s also the least graceful cat I’ve known. Half the time I just call her The Wreaking Ball. I’ve no idea how she managed to survive catching her own food, she’d manage to knock over a tree somehow…

I am so sorry to hear of the Norsecat’s frailties, my sympathies are with you.

As for virtual pets, I don’t care much for them really, I have a few free ones that I never use, but the Journey rug monster thing is a good example of a pet that defines a statement. I wouldn’t really buy one unless it was to make a particular point or really finish off a costume, like a Ring Master and a Lion or something. Oh! I did get an Aibo dog, but only coz I can’t justify a real one, but at least it’s interactive.

I think it’s just another form of pet = fashion like you said, but I’d much rather people who live in the “now” buy virtual pets, then switch them off when they’re not cool anymore than doing a *ahem* similar thing with real, living creatures.

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By: boxer_lady http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-120956 Thu, 03 May 2012 01:18:51 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-120956 You hit the nail on the head!! Nice article Norse. My Maine Coone recently traveled to the Rainbow Bridge. I adopted her from the shelter when she was 5, and I had her for 8 years. Before she died she became very, very emaciated and frail..and her need to be with me grew stronger. I’d like to believe because she found comfort in my love for her and I think she knew that I needed to hold her more knowing she wasn’t going to be around much longer. She was always with me up to the night she died..then she snuck off to her “cat room” to die in peace.

She was the coolest cat I’ve ever had…more like a dog..(sorry) LOL! It never bothered her when the house was full of all her old dog pals (my personal dogs) or if it was full of 12 puppies or 6 Boxer’s waiting for new homes. (I’ve rescued Boxer’s for over 22 years and for a time ran the local Boxer Rescue in my city..so there was always an influx of dogs in the house.) She used the doggie door just like the dogs, and she knew when to just hunker down and wait till the slobber-bath was over! Heehee

I miss her so much…. Don’t know if I’d feel that way about one of my Companion’s in Home if they decided to take one away, but I can tell you that I’ve formed a VERY strong bond with Blinking Binx…he’s in ALL of my seventy-something spaces. He’s my mascot in Home, and if he disappeared…YEP, I’d grieve!

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By: Burbie52 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-120432 Tue, 01 May 2012 12:31:13 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-120432 I haven’t bought many companions actually, I have had many given through the gift machine and rewards seem to all be companions lately. Of the few I have bought I have couple of dogs. I don’t use them as much as many people I have seen, but I was always one who believed that pets would sell well in Home. The friends I have had for a long time will tell you I was talking about the need for them way back when I first got into Home over two years ago.
It is human nature to want to love something outside of ourselves, in real life as you stated there are few of us who don’t dote on a pet in their lives or at least have in the past like me.
I am not in a position to have a pet right now, haven’t had one for over six years. But that pull to own one still exists inside of me. I feed it now with buying bird seed and watching the wonderful finches, bluejays and other wild birds come to eat it on my porch. Having a pet in Home can fill a need or it can be a sign of prowess in a game, or like you said it can be way of showing a part of who we are. Nice read Norse as always.

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By: BONZO http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-120283 Tue, 01 May 2012 04:50:52 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-120283 Good point on the collecting purpose of companions. I collect comic busts and statues in RL i was really into the dunnys and designter toys, and in Home i love reward collecting. Specially display figures.

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By: deuce_for2 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-120259 Tue, 01 May 2012 03:37:37 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-120259 I too thought that companions were going to go no where. I felt like when I had one out like I feel when my shoe is untied. I never considered them as an accessory. I think you are right. i don’t think they are used as pets as much as jewelry.

Lots to think about. Great article.

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By: Kid Fleetfoot http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-120246 Tue, 01 May 2012 03:07:23 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-120246 I wonder how lovable a household pet cat would be were it as big as a tiger. I sure don’t know. One would have to have a mansion made of gold to have such a large cat as a pet I just got myself in trouble with those who hate the gold mansion sold in HOME. So what?

Children like toys and many like teddy bear toys and the like. Do not adults? Maybe we don’t play with them but some people have dolls to display, bobble head sports toys, and items that are animals such as lamps.

As adults, on HOME we can become children again and play with toys whether clothing, animals and what have you. Some of them are quite pretty and if they move like the pet animals do some of us can identify with them even if they are only make believe.

Toys, toys, toys. I like my HOME tractor too.

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By: Godzprototype http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-120223 Tue, 01 May 2012 02:09:59 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-120223 I haven’t gotten the kitten companion, just because I have a cat I love very much. Her name is Spab, and my connection to her is profound.
I do own the peacock companion. I have owned quite a few pea fowl in R/L, and one thing or another happened to them. So I bought one in Home so I could continue to see those tails, and remember just how beautiful they were.
I think your right it does appear to be a trendy type of market, and that is cool too! It would be interesting to have a consequences type interaction with these companions.

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By: BONZO http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/the-lure-of-virtual-pets/#comment-120222 Tue, 01 May 2012 02:09:11 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=25993#comment-120222 Excellent article Norse. Sorry to hear about your cat. I have lived in households with dogs and cats, and I admit I have always gravitated more towards dogs, but I love all animals. I was even very attached to rabbits, chickens, and even fish. I agree with the conclusion that virtual companions are essentially fashion accessories. I’ve noticed a gender trend in that as well, with most obvious male teens usually displaying the cars and planes, and helicopters. I have over 30 at this point, a lot of them freebie rewards but the ones i have purchased have all been animals. I specifically wanted Binx for a long time because Binx looks so much like my real pup. I’ve grown attached to many animals whether they were my personal pets or not. Within the last year losing 3 of them (not my personal pets but friends’)which has been very sad, even though i haven’t been in their daily lives for some time it didn’t diminish the bond I had with them. The real life fashion accessory trend was atrocious and really made me dislike the celebutantes that decided to make a living thing their fashion accessory. I volunteered with ASPCA shelters during those periods and it was really sad to see chihuahuas and pomerenians outnumber the pitbulls in shelters because these people decided the charm wore off and it was too much trouble to take care of them anymore, so they just unloaded them to the fate of being euthanized. I advocate pet adoption as much as possible but emphasize the serious commitment it is to take care of a living creature that has needs you can not ignore. The sidekicks i have purchased have been a reflection of my interests, and i don’t know that you can have too many, though i may be close. Some are just a fantasy too, we can’t have dinosaur pets or wild animals, but it’s nice to have a little raptor, gorilla, or tiger sidekick. It’s just nice to also see another animated creature in an environment whether you interact with it or not. I think that was the greatest appeal of the mui mui island for me the fact that it was inhabited by little creatures whether i was there or not, and the fact that you can cheer them up by dancing for them. Even when my own not so little brown furry bundle of love is lying next to me on the couch or in bed, it’s nice to have a little companion following you around with such seeming unconditional devotion, you just tend to forget that it is programmed to. :)

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