Comments on: PlayStation Home Mansion Redux http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/ The PlayStation Home Magazine Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:20:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.2 By: deuce_for2 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-123042 Mon, 07 May 2012 17:31:16 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-123042 The thing that drove me crazy was the skating -- their feet move, but they don’t. I am obsessed with making things look real. Others are not. They think I go to far. Maybe they are right. For me an animal spinning on its axis and walking in place look bad. I know not everyone agrees, but I gotta be me.

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By: Bayern_1867 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-122419 Sun, 06 May 2012 12:38:25 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-122419 @ deuce_for2: I *love* the robotic canine. Thanks!
@ Orion_NGC1976: As soon as the Mansion was announced, I wanted it because of the connectivity. Well, that hasn’t worked out as I thought it would. Sigh. I thought maybe it would be the beginning of add-ons for some other spaces: a lower floor living space for the Harbour apartment, scuba areas at some beach spaces, garden access for some houses. I’m sure each of us could make a long list. As to the price … well, if it were truly a seamless connection for host and guests between areas, it would be worth it. I keep my fingers crossed.

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By: Kassadee Marie http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-121713 Fri, 04 May 2012 19:45:20 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-121713 I want a castle, too. Can it be pink, please?

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By: Orion_NGC1976 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-121671 Fri, 04 May 2012 16:51:58 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-121671 I would like to have a castle. I would be great to have a defend/storm the castle game. There was one in the Japan region, but is now gone.

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By: Orion_NGC1976 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-121670 Fri, 04 May 2012 16:50:38 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-121670 That makes entire sense about the size of the tiger and making it look natural.
There are adult tiger companions available in Home now. I have been tempted to purchase one, but have not had the time to check it out.

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By: Dlyrius http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-121666 Fri, 04 May 2012 16:29:46 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-121666 Love it Orion, I personally hate baked in anything, and would much prefer the option to buy furniture bundles designed for the space itself. Even an option to purchased furnished or unfurnished would rock my world :)

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By: deuce_for2 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-121663 Fri, 04 May 2012 16:24:37 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-121663 I forgot about the castle. Yes Home needs one with a “Storm The Castle” game.

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By: deuce_for2 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-121662 Fri, 04 May 2012 16:23:05 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-121662 My goal was just to give you a taste of how being a developer you don’t have the wide open options you do as a reviewer. The reason a robot works following you around and a tiger does not is that the robot can float away in any direction and looks natural. Spinning a tiger on its axis would look odd. And insuring there is enough room for a tiger to spin is hard. And what do you do if there is not enough room? Tigers are big. That is why I did a Robotic Canine instead of a real dog.

Your points are all correct and need to be considered. The hard part as a developer is you pick doing things one way and people second guess you for years to come. I don’t mind that. I just want to make sure that the reviewers understand that the whole world is not possible to us as it is to them. There are always time and money restrictions which are easy to forget about when brainstorming.

There are no bad ideas when brainstorming. And articles like this one help a lot when creating the next generation. Nice work!

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By: Burbie52 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-121599 Fri, 04 May 2012 13:44:30 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-121599 Loved the article by the way Orion, it needed to be said.

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By: Burbie52 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-121598 Fri, 04 May 2012 13:43:42 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-121598 If they would create a castle instead of a mansion this time without the total immersion of furniture and separate pieces with a few castle type games built it, it would sell like hot cakes. They would have to stay away from the gaudy stuff and add a furniture bundle to match the setting, but I think it would be a big hit. A defend the castle type game would go over well I think, look at how popular the one at Abstergo labs still is. It would be even better if it could emulate Cutthroats and have two teams pitted against each other.

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By: Burbie52 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-121596 Fri, 04 May 2012 13:38:46 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-121596 It wasn’t the price that turned me off really, though I do think it was a bit too high for what you received. It was the ability to truly make the space your own through decorating. A few baked in pieces are fine by me, preferably along the outside areas, like tables or perhaps dressers, as long as they can have things placed on the flat surfaces, those are fine. But I agree that even adding ornament to this space as it is laid out can make it look too crowded. The feeling of continuity that Deuce spoke of because you can see the furniture through the windows is a small price to pay for the ability to decorate how you choose to.
This is why I never bought the space when it originally came out, coupled with the golden gaudiness of it, it turned me off completely.
I agree that the pool area is the only one I would ever have considered buying at all. it at least seemed to be more open and easier to add your own touches to.
If they would tone down the gaudiness, take some of the furniture out of the center of the areas and add some more less gaudy furniture I might consider buying one of these pieces.

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By: Orion_NGC1976 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-121443 Fri, 04 May 2012 05:04:54 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-121443 John thank you for you comments.

I do not have the knowledge of a programmer of great Home stuff like you, so I can only go by what I have seen on Home.

I believe that the tiger could work in the same manner as the floating robot pet in the Neptune apartment. There is an area where the pet resides. When enter that area it begins to follow you. If you go back to that area it will stop following you. If you happen to get yourself cornered by the robot, I believe it recognizes when you come near to it and it moves out of the way. I don’t see why the tiger couldn’t behave in the same manner.

Personal tastes is a tricky one for sure, but if a segment of your market is ignored, they will eventually leave or worse stop buying things. So how do allow one to easily skin or personalize the look of the space. Even though it was limited in the number of selections, I really like the ability to change the wallpaper in your studio apartment. I like subdued, dark colors, so slate works great for me. For others this would probably be too drab. The Mansion could have similar approach with different themes: hip-hop, classical, etc., where statues, appliances, etc. could have a different look.

To have baked in furniture it not is another trickery one. I would like to see survey numbers on this (maybe I will create one in the Sony forum). The preference may be divided along gender lines. Almost all of my female friends are very proud at showing me how they have decorated such-and-such place. I understand that some on a budget may prefer baked in furniture, much like a furnished apartment, but this is a mansion. I am rich, why should I have a limited ability in decorating it. Doesn’t make sense to me.

I acknowledge that if these things were incorporated it would probably drastically increase load time and may not even be possible under current memory contraints, but larger spaces have been released recently.

You have peeked my interest in what 1.65 might bring to Home in the future.

Thank you for your comments from your vantage point as a developer.

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By: LostRainbow http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-121432 Fri, 04 May 2012 04:38:41 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-121432 Great article. I too think the Mansion should be one big space. How annoying for guests to be sent back to their spaces if you go to another part of the mansion. It should all flow. Last year after Home came back online, they gave us the garage space of the mansion. I never decorated it or spent time there. One of my main reasons for never purchasing the rest of it, was the high cost. I think it needs it’s price lowered or to become one unit. Then maybe I’d consider buying more of it!!

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By: deuce_for2 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-121384 Fri, 04 May 2012 01:53:25 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-121384 Okay, let’s say you are the developer. You want the tiger to follow you around, that could easily be done. Now does the tiger have collision? Because if he does, he will block your movement. You turn around and you cannot move because their is a tiger in the way. He might pin you in a corner so you cannot move. And if you remove the collision, the testing department will throw it back at you and tell you to put it back.

You want to reduce the gaudiness. How will that effect sales? Will they be higher or lower? There seems to be a big market for anything hip-hop or gangster. And the Mansion definitely has its “Scarface” moments.

You don’t like the baked in furniture, others loved it. How do you resolve that? And you can see some of the furniture through a window from the pool. If people placed their own furniture, it would have blown continuity.

All four spaces maxed out the memory limits of the time. So even with a dynamic loading/unloading system, it could not have been done. And BTW, it would take at least 4 times as long to load if you could do it. Possibly way more if the space kept getting bumped out of the local cache because it was so big.

Reasonably priced obviously is negotiable. I feel the first space cost is high. But when you average out the cost of all 4 spaces, it is reasonable. They still are some of the best spaces in Home.

People were haters of x7 and yet that made the Top Ten for selling short term tickets. Cutthroats was a huge win and didn’t place anything in the Top Ten. It is hard to say for sure what will sell and what won’t. I thought that the crowd that would go into x7 would also own the Mansion.

Pop music is called that because it is popular. Yet many people say it should be less sugary sweet. Are they right? Are they making it for themselves or to sell to others? David Bowie, hardly a sell out, once was asked if money ever came into his equation when creating music. He said he couldn’t speak for other artists, but he made music for a living. If he wasn’t making money, he wouldn’t be making music, he would be doing something else.

All that said, I think there is room for another Mansion. It is odd that going to another part of the same space kicks people out. Maybe it would have worked better for some as a Club.

I hope if they are working on a new Mansion, they read this article and think about what you said. Your points are all valid. I imagine they will learn and improve the next one where they can. Improvements are coming fast now. I am still looking at all the things in 1.65.

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By: Phoenix http://www.hsmagazine.net/2012/05/playstation-home-mansion-redux/#comment-121354 Fri, 04 May 2012 00:12:01 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=26457#comment-121354 GREAT ARTICLE! I so agree with everything you’ve said. I have held out on buying it for the same reasons. I enjoy decorating my spaces, and I hate that you have to leave to got to each floor. It is such a hassle. etc… Thank You Orion. Well stated!

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