Comments on: Talking With Women on Home For the Uninitiated http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/ The PlayStation Home Magazine Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:20:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.2 By: fun-gi http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-28823 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:48:48 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-28823 Well, I have to say that it’s rather sad that articles like this even need to be written in the first place. That this kind of common sense thinking isn’t on the minds of every man is perplexing to say the least. But then, common sense really isn’t very common at all… is it?

Great job though, and everything in here is the best advice one could give for both virtual life and the real world. Clearly your parents did a fantastic job raising you with a good set of morals and etiquette as mine did. Kudos!

I just read an article on this site by a woman on how to successfully meet/talk with women on HOME, based solely on how you dress. To be honest, I found the article to be offensive to both males and females alike. The author was quick to lump all males into 3 basic categories based on our Avatar’s, and it just went downhill as fast as it could from there. It was complete garbage and did nothing but reinforce my laothing for women who judge men based on what shoes they put on that day and a gold digging attitude worn so proudly by far too many women these days.

Maybe I read it wrong, but I didn’t see where the author stated it was “tongue in cheek” or to be taken with a grain of salt. She simply began to stupidly categorize types of men on HOME by how they dress, and what it says to women here on HOME.

This article is much more realistic and is far better advice on what to say, rather than what to spend your money on to impress a lady and let her know you aren’t a creeper.

Great job! Respect! :)

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By: keara22hi http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-27558 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 01:37:16 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-27558 Excellent work, Orion. I know how many weeks of research and interviewing you put into this project and it paid off. I find it interesting that you have both men and women agreeing with your findings.

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By: TCMix http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-27543 Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:13:28 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-27543 Just out of curiosity, how are you qualified to educate other men as to what women think, feel, or desire? What is it that you have that all these other men do not? A long history of successful cyber-conquests perhaps? A harem of groupie avatards hanging on every word of your “sensitive male” con? Or do you just have a vagina? Oh, and thank goodness you’ve finally cracked the code that “Women like to talk about themselves…”. Give yourself another pat on the back for having evolved so far beyond your peers. Honestly, if you’re going to advise others how to treat women as human beings, you might want to rephrase that as “Most people like to talk about themselves…” – far preferable to a statement which managed to be both a sweeping generalization AND exclusive to my gender. Nice. You think you’re so in touch with your feminine side… well you’d never be in touch with mine, hero. All these comments from women praising you for your enlightened viewpoint… smmfh. You should thank every troll, perv, and moron you meet for pushing the standard of excellence to such an pathetically attainable level. By the way, I’m just kidding!… mostly. All things considered, a pretty decent article, but you could still learn a thing or two about the opposite sex. Hee… I slay me.

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By: Orion_NGC1976 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26979 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:30:50 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26979 I have never been involved in making a video, but I would be up to giving it a whirl.

A keyboard bundle with PS3s is a great idea.

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By: Orion_NGC1976 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26978 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:17:40 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26978 Life in general is a work in progress and so is life on Home. I have had teenagers and adults tell me that they use Home as a place where they work on their conversation and social skills that they then take back into the real world.

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By: Orion_NGC1976 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26977 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:13:30 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26977 Thanks for the list. All great advice as well. I kind of hinted at it but had inadvertently neglected to clearly state it as you have that you are much more approachable if you have friends around you, especially female, and that you hold intelligent and thoughtful conversations with each other. Again thanks!

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By: Orion_NGC1976 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26976 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:05:55 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26976 That was one reason I wrote the article was that all the articles I saw on the subject were written by women, which is good, but I thought a male weighing in on the subject was needed. If they are ignoring the advice from the women, maybe the advice from a fellow guy will sink in.

I love the Red Green show. “If the women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.”

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By: CheekyGuy http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26943 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:13:25 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26943 While it is true Home is not ‘E Harmony’ there is always that possibility that you might meet somebody and that friendship could grow in time into something more.

There are some people that I have met, either on home and other virtual world services that mostly keep their relationships in the virtual world. This may be a new thing for home users, and granted, Home has been branded as a ‘gaming’ platform so it’s intentions are very clear from the offset. But that doesn’t mean relationships can’t form in some way or other, prerhaps staying in the Virtual world to avoid any complications (and also perhaps taking into account ‘distances’ that some people may live and if or wether they are taken in real life.) Or if they are brave enough to make a go of things, spill out into the real world.

Personally Home is a great way for younger users to talk to girls (not so much pick up girls) but at least learn that they are essentially the same as us and this might throw that myth out the window for them. I would imagine it to be a confidence booster and would be an evaluable learning tool for use in later life, at a time when they are naturally ready to date women out in the real world.

This is just some of the fantastic benefits of having a virtual space.

Great read, would love to see an accompanying ‘How To’ video shown in malls and Central Plaza.

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By: Kid Fleetfoot http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26868 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 00:46:17 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26868 It’s a nice article. I’m wondering if young people 13-15 or so can learn conversing ability on Home, but that’s a rhetorical question which could apply to adults.
Good article.

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By: Keara22hi http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26818 Sat, 06 Aug 2011 17:06:37 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26818 RE: HearItWow’s list -- This should be required reading for every male who enters Home.

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By: HearItWow http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26816 Sat, 06 Aug 2011 16:59:51 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26816 Great article, with some very solid advice. There’s a few things I’d add to it, speaking as someone who counts a fairly even mix of males and females on his Friends list:

1. Leave your hormones in your Harbor Studio. Women don’t just go straight from “Hello” to the bedroom, guys. There’s this stage in between called friendship. Aim for that, and count yourself lucky if it grows into anything more. Women can figure out what you’re looking for about 10 seconds into a conversation. Trust me on this.

2. Get a group of guy friends. It’s easier to make friends with the same gender, because there are fewer complications. (Note that I’m writing this from the “straight” perspective, in keeping with the topic of the article). When a woman sees a male who’s easygoing and engaged with his friends, she’s more likely to be receptive to talking to you. Oh, and make sure the guys are decent guys. Spamming your fam name in the Mall is not attractive.

3. Join a club. Find a group that holds regular events in Home, like Team RHO, the Homelings, the LSU Hurricanes, etc. These clubs have women in them, and you’ve all got something in common. Do keep your intentions in check; if you’re going to join a club, be prepared to do the work that comes with it. Don’t just hang around that one female avatar that you like.

4. Be helpful. When a new game comes out in Home, learn how it works, then hang around the space offering to help others. This is a great way to make friends in general, because people will be drawn to someone who can answer their questions. If you’ve got a high level in Aurora, hang out there and talk about strategy. The more people see you being friendly and helpful, the more likely they are to talk to you. Even the most timid Home users will approach someone who appears kind.

5. Keep her on your Friends List. Even if you don’t have any interest in a relationship, stay friends with people who want to be friends, and take the time to see them once in a while. She may know someone who could become a great friend, or more, but you’ll never find that out if you drop her because some other female started talking to you. It’s also great to be seen chatting with females and males in public spaces. If women see that you’ve got other women around you, they’ll assume that you’re not a creep.

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By: ApriL83 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26723 Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:35:20 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26723 agree, agree, agree. i was nodding my head throughout the whole article. a must read for everyone on home, not just guys.

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By: CheekyGuy http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26709 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:29:51 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26709 I think personally this would make for a great ‘How to’ Educational video for use in the Community theater, which can be fun but informative.

I have many friends on home and most of them just happen to be female, I talk to them in the same way i talk to the guys.

I really believe that Sony should create a major overhaul in their Pre typed Chat system (“I don’t have a keyboard”, was that Sonys attempt at humour?) Or at least provide one of their Clip on Wireless keyboards packaged with all new PS3s. It just makes perfect sense.

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By: angie23881 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26681 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 18:37:48 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26681 If the guys cant talk decent I ignore them.Thats all i have to say.

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By: Susan http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26672 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:57:14 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26672 Great article Orion. I have adopted DarthGrannys way of talking to people. She asks if they have anything intelligent to add to our conversation..Or Olivia_All when she reply’s when asked “where are you from?”- Avatar Creation Menu…”how old are you?”-almost 3 in Home years..

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By: Burbie52 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26625 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:59:00 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26625 *who*

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By: Burbie52 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26624 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:55:35 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26624 Wonderful insights and suggestions Orion, let’s hope some guys reading this take it to heart. As a female in Home it can get very frustrating when you are assailed by every Tom, Dick, and Harry that comes along, or sent pm’s that are either obscene suggestions or just mundane chit chat all the time. I usually just have to tell them my age and they run for the hills, but even then I sometimes get those that either don’t believe me and call me a liar, or act as though my age doesn’t matter, even if I old enough to be their Mom or Grandma. The latter are either extremely desperate to speak with anything that’s remotely female looking, or just playing a game with it I believe. If a person walks up to me be it male or female and actually has something to say, I will listen and converse with them, and sometimes if I see a new person how is wandering around like a lost puppy I will even start a conversation and ask them if they need help. I agree with Granny’s article that Sony should trade out some of the preset words like ” I have no keyboard”, as it is redundant and quite obvious who does and doesn’t own one, and replace it with something like, “What games do you like?” or “What is your favorite place here?” At least in this there is a chance for a conversation. Good read!

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By: Terra_Cide http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26623 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:30:42 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26623 Anyone who can quote Red Green gets +1 Internets (at least) in my book.

The one thing that I do like about this article is that most of the “how to talk to a woman” articles, both here on HSM and elsewhere have come from women. It’s nice to see a man’s perspective on the topic -- especially one who, you know, actually *has* a real-life woman in his life, in other words, actually knows what he’s talking about.

It’s also amazing how similar the two different perspectives are. Now there really is no excuse for someone to act like a tool in front of a female, not that there ever was in the first place. But when there is both women and men saying nearly the exact same things and they’re still being ignored, the person doing the ignoring is an idiot and needs to go somewhere else to practice his social skills. Kindergarten, perhaps.

“I’m pulling for ya. We’re all in this together.”

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By: cthulu93 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26620 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:55:08 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26620 I find that the hardest part of talking to females on Home is determining if they are in fact females.I often find it rather funny to see a guy propose marriage within the 1st 5 min. of meeting a “female” only to find out it was indeed a male all along.Just because the avatar is smoking hot doesn’t mean the real person is A.smoking hot B.female or C.the kind of person your looking for in a friendship.As is usually the case a few moments of thinking can prevent alot of embarressment in this situation.Even irl a person’s looks mean little when it comes to the question of whether or not you will enjoy that persons company.On Home an avatar’s looks mean even less.

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By: Negative_Creep86 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/08/talking-with-women-on-home-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-26611 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:20:43 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=12288#comment-26611 Very good article. I think if some of the younger guys (or even the ones in their mid 20’s like myself) would use these simple tips they’d see that talking to women and making friends with them on Home and in reality isn’t that hard to do. Just be nice! :)

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