Comments on: Home, With a T

By: cthulu93

cthulu93 — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:57:04 +0000

1 key ingredient of tolerance is the ability to be non-judgemental as possible when dealing with ppl that have a difference of opinion.Quite often I find that when someone doesn’t like what is being said or discussed they try to pigeon-hole you into a position or view that you don’t necessarily have then label you for it in order to somehow seem to be in control of the convo. which to them seems to have taken a turn they feel uncomfortable with.This usually leads to name calling and unproven allegations about the persons character.I’m a firm believer that in a fair exchange of words the truth will always best the cleverest lies but here’s the thing that confuses me greatly.Irl ppl tend to attribute qualities to good looking ppl that they don’t always possess.On home i’ve noticed this is still true even when it should be clear to everyone that the avatar in front of you is not a true representation of the real person behind it,even if that person attempted it to be similiar there are key differences.So quite often whenever a good looking avatar,either male or female makes no difference here,has a disagreement with an “ugly”or”fat” avatar quite often anyone watching the exchange believes the good looking avatar over the unattractive 1.It’s as though ppl believe good looks impart honesty which i find ridiculous for many reasons.If anyone has a good answer as to why this occurs i’d love to hear it.I believe expecting Sony to cure the trolling problem to everyone’s satisfaction is kind of like asking them to become the opposite of tolerant and non-judgemental.Sony would need to outrightly brick anyone that ever offended anyone else in order to make everyone happy.If that came about Home would be a empty place pretty quickly.I still feel it would be much better to change the mindset of the users of Home than to take the “Iron fist” approach and being more tolerant and non-judgemental is a great way to start but it should also be kept in mind that,as in all societies,there will be some ppl that just can’t or won’t get along.As long as they aren’t harming 1 another this should be accepted as well,but the problem here is what exactly constitutes harm?There are no clear lines to clarify what is harmful or harrassing exactly.There are some obvious lines that shouldn’t be crossed but if someone becomes emotionally “harmed”simply by the nature of a disagreement of,let’s say.about who was really the man in the iron mask should the other party be punished under the “Sony should stop all trolls” policy?I don’t think so.Also how could Sony really establish that the emotional “harm” was real or feigned?If taken to it’s logical conclusion the”Sony should stop all trolls by any means possible” policy would end up banning us all because I seriously doubt that there is anyone on Home that hasn’t offended someone in their time on home in 1 way or another,maybe not in a troll like fashion but the person offended would probably claim it was and claim emotional damage.

By: Kid Fleetfoot

Kid Fleetfoot — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:20:22 +0000

I’m reminded of when Immigrants came to the USA from different countries, some did not like each other very much… different upbringings or societies. Intermarriage was one way that the different nationalities got along.

You said, Sometimes behavior which we perceive as being disruptive, isn’t intended to be.
I certainly agree with that.

I still don’t like the article but please keep writing. Discussion is good.

By: Aeternitas33

Aeternitas33 — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:23:11 +0000

Kid Fleetfoot, I think there might be some misunderstanding. As Burbie was saying, Home is composed of many different societies. Sometimes behavior which we perceive as being disruptive, isn’t intended to be. I’ve commented upon this on the forums. It’s necessary to “check” your perceptions with another person. Because someone who’s coming from another perspective may see things differently. Tolerance is not a cure-all, but it is one tool that is being underutilized. If you check your perceptions with another person, and it’s clear that they understand that what they’re doing is having a negative impact on you, and they persist, then it’s appropriate to move onto other tools which are available, such as you mentioned.

By: Kid Fleetfoot

Kid Fleetfoot — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:19:23 +0000

Should one tolerate disruptive behavior? Some can and do while others choose not to and report disruptive behavior and/or else leave whether it be in Home or in a real life situation.

Don’t like behavior in a public place? Then either report to management, the Police, or leave. Same thing in Home.

It’s SONY’s playground and we play by their rules or else leave or get banned.

As to early telephones and operators, it was nice. They were polite from what I remember although I did get politely chewed out once. (Never mind!)
I once asked someone in a position to know if operators could and did listen to conversations and was told “We weren’t supposed to.”
On party lines especially in the country areas where many people shared a line, a few customers themselves would listen to others conversations. I assume a few but several could listen to a conversation.) In some respects we have more privacy today.

If the writer is advocating organized chaos that is something some if not most will not tolerate depending how bad it might get. It’s Central Plaza, not Chaos Plaza. I will admit observe chaos would be interesting in a virtual world but I don’t believe that’s what people or even SONY wants.

As far as seeing an alien type beast with wings a a skull face in real life, I might just ask, “Where’s the comic book convention?”

I don’t like this article. Maybe it’s too ambiguous or else I am misunderstanding something.

I am a people watcher.

By: Burbie52

Burbie52 — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:08:16 +0000

Wonderful article MJG, you hit the nail firmly on the head with this one. Whenever you create a microcosm like Home, made up of many societal groups you are bound to have friction, this virtual society we have is a perfect mini copy of real life. Tolerance is something we should all instill in our children as they grow, and the lack of it in society and Home are good examples of the fact that many people in our society were never taught this simple truth, that if you love and tolerate others in all of their myriad differences, you yourself will be loved as well.

By: Aeternitas33

Aeternitas33 — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 05:24:38 +0000

Nice thoughts. I do tend to agree with you, that it isn’t really Sony’s responsibility to “clean up” Home. Nor do I believe it is wholly within their capability to do so. The reason I say this, is that the core issues I see with the NA and EU Homes stem from the societies which utilize those Homes. There are things Sony can do to minimize their impact upon Home, to offer us a better experience, but Sony can’t solve our societal ills for us.