Comments on: RPG: The Ultimate Fantasy http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/ The PlayStation Home Magazine Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:20:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.2 By: SealWyf http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/#comment-6629 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:51:51 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2660#comment-6629 I know what you mean about story, Norse. Story, and emotional impact.

Final Fantasy VII was the first game that ever made me cry. The death of Aeris left me sitting stunned, staring at the screen. How could they DO this? I was sure she would somehow be reincarnated, that death would not be final — lord knows “General Hospital” and “X-Men” had taught me that a story need not be limited by a simple thing like death, witnessed on-screen and agreed to by all present. Aeris would be back, for sure.

But she wasn’t. At least not as a living character. And that simple fact gave me a profound respect for Final Fantasy’s creators. They had respected the logic of the story. Death was death, final and irrevocable, with its own integrity. Even Conan Doyle couldn’t resist the temptation of bringing Sherlock Holmes back from that abyss.

But the death of Aeris, wrenching as it was, was nothing compared to the ending of Final Fantasy X. I still haven’t quite forgiven them for that one. I mean… Tidus! Gah! But I profoundly respect the artistic decision.

And writing this, years later, I’m getting a little leaky around the eyes again. That is why RPGs will always be my favorite game genre. How many books and movies have that kind of lasting effect on your inner life? They’re far and few, believe me.

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By: cthulu93 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/#comment-6628 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:48:16 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2660#comment-6628 Funny u should mention carthage,this is kinda off topic but i was re-reading a book on hannibal the great and encountered Scipio(the younger)Aemilianus’obituary of carthage which he uttered as he put it to the torch,it goes like this.”God of Death and War,bring infernal terrors into this cursed city of Carthage,and against it’s armies and it’s people.We curse,with the utmost strength of our being,this people and army.We curse whoever occupied these places,whoever worked in these fields,whoever lived upon this soil.We implore that they may never again behold light from above.Let eternal silence and desolation remain here.Accursed be they who return.Let a two-fold curse be upon those who try to resurrect these ruins.”In other words if your from carthage you got big troubles.

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By: Burbie52 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/#comment-6619 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:21:25 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2660#comment-6619 I am not sure that I ever got to play FFVI but I think my fave all time is FF7. I truly wish the would take Cloud and crew and remake that title with modern graphics. Now that would be epic!!!

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By: NorseGamer http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/#comment-6546 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:54:56 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2660#comment-6546 Generally speaking, what I enjoy most about RPGs is that they’re intellectually and emotionally engrossing, because they focus more on story than action.

This isn’t to say that I don’t passionately enjoy other genres as well; there’s something to be said for the thrill of perfectly kissing the apex of a corner in F-Zero, or nailing that perfect headshot in SOCOM. I’ve gone into Street Fighter and beaten down an opponent so hard that you’d think he was from Carthage. But, generally speaking, it’s RPG titles which tend to stay with me.

God, the Ultima series. Played the first five titles religiously when I was a kid. Ultima V, in particular, took *months* of dedicated gameplay. I felt like Nigel Terry riding around with my own Richard Wagner soundtrack. The ideas of virtues to aspire to, and shrines, and the quest for self-englightenment…Chrétien de Troyes would be proud. Sure, I played Bard’s Tale and Wasteland and Wizardry and the rest, but Ultima always did it for me.

The Final Fantasy titles, of course, always have to mentioned. I’m fairly certain FFIV is the first video game I played where the soundtrack *wouldn’t get out of my head.* There’s a whole lot of Nobuo Uematsu in my iTunes.

S-RPG titles, as well, are insanely addictive. A typical Front Mission 3 playthrough takes me about 118 hours. And that’s just for the Emma missions. The Alisa storyline is wildly different. And Vandal Hearts or the first two Shining Force titles? Oh baby. Hell, I still play Kessen II to this day.

And, of course, BioWare — from KOTOR to Dragon Age and beyond — knows how to bring the epic. We’re finally entering an age where developers are willing to interject a lot of moral gray areas into game narratives, and this makes them infinitely more interesting.

The single most interesting video game character I’ve ever encountered — and it frankly disgusts me that she’s not more respected, because Obsidian put some *amazing* writing into her — is Kreia, from KOTOR II. She is possibly the single most amoral character ever encountered in a video game, and she really makes me think.

God, I love this genre.

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By: LifeReaper http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/#comment-6523 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:16:50 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2660#comment-6523 Loved the article. Being an elder gamer,I can certainly remember the old days. Playing Phantasy Star on my Sega Master System. My love began there. Today I really enjoy playing Mass Effect 1 & 2. Just terrific and deep content that has replay value.

Loved your examples and comments on how some of the originals have endured. Of note: Just to give an example of how well they have endured.

Treyarch, the developer of the recent installment to the huge Call of Duty series, embedded an ‘Easter Egg’ in their game Black Ops. It’s found right in the title screen. As you sit strapped to your chair, you may notice you can move your arms by alternating R & L triggers. Doing so rapidly will break you free of the binds and allow you to freely move around the room. Against the wall ahead and slightly left of your chair, there is an old commodore 64 style computer on a table. You can actually log in to this computer, and proceed to do many things, such as access user data bases, emails, and yes! Unlock ‘Easter Eggs’ like the Zork game itself. So nice to see Treyach pay tribute to the RGP genre like this.

Anywho. Enjoyed the article, as well as David’s comments.

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By: kricky31 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/#comment-6506 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:09:04 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2660#comment-6506 I still pop in Final Fantasy VI every once in while. I kept my copy of Final Fantasy Anthology and play it on the PS3. The large cast of relatable interesting characters each with different skill paths was incredible. One game not mentioned here that I think brings some of that same varied combat skills is Mass Effect 2. It has an incredible immersive world with a great story. Long live Commander Shepard!

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By: gamereaper218 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/#comment-6485 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 09:53:48 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2660#comment-6485 cool article i still play final fantasy7 on my PS1 ^^ i still say we should have could strife costume on home lol cool article

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By: iceandspice http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/#comment-6471 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 07:30:13 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2660#comment-6471 I am one of those “Final Fantasy VI” RPG fan. My whole gaming experience changed after Final Fantasy VI, before then it was limited to playing Road rash and Carmageddon on primitive PC and PS one. I took the bait of RPG and got hooked, There is no known cure for it *_*

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By: backarch http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/#comment-6457 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 02:56:04 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2660#comment-6457 OMG!!!the long lost memory of games on the old atari and commodores!! ALTERNATE REALITY, BABY!!! excellent game on the atari. the first final fantasy on the nintendo, link, zelda, the star ocean series,ALL the ultimas, WOO HOO!! ooo, memorylane. WONDERFUL article, just perfect. oh, and for the kids out there. back during the ultimas, with no internet, there WAS the BBS (bulletin board system). you would have to actually get your computer to literally phone someones number and hope thier computer was hooked up or they would get this high pitched squeeling in thier ear as my computer is trying to talk to thiers. it was all text. just talking to each other, unless you ‘downloaded’ the information off thiers threw sound signals, if that made sence. try loading a game threw your cassette recorder for half an hour and see how much fun THAT is. yeah, you oldies like me know what im talking about. or SAVING your game onto a cassette. then forgetting its a game and play a high pitched squeel in your car, blowing everyones eardrums out. ahhh, the fun. (i bet THATS why the invented 8 tracks. oops, dating myself again.) lil mouse

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By: SealWyf http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/#comment-6405 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:34:51 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2660#comment-6405 For me, RPG is all about storytelling. It’s why text-based RPGs work, and why the early FF titles are still playable — you are living the story in your head, and don’t need no fancy graphics.

When I was a Dungeon Master, I did my best to give my group an immersive story-telling experience. I made all my own monsters out of polymer claw (my lumpy original rats showed up in every adventure), collected little props to liven up the kitchen table, and engaged my players in every way I could dream up.

My final epic adventure was based on Mozart’s opera “The Magic Flute”. At one point I handed out lyric sheets and had my party sing the hymn of praise to Sarastro (Zorrastro in my version) to the original Mozart melody. I should still have that somewhere…. (rootles around on the hard disk)… yes, here it is! Woot!


All hail to Zorrastro!
We praise his decisions,
His Wisdom and Int
And his religious visions!
With Lawfulness and Goodness he rules church and state.
He has high Charisma--we think he is great!
(We think he is great! We think he is great!)

Hooray for Zorrastro!
We’ll always adore him!
We’ll fight on his side
And we’ll do favors for him.
With virtue he wins us the favor divine
He’s pals with the gods, and we think he’s so fine!
(We think he’s so fine! We think he’s so fine!)

We all dig Zorrastro!
We’re crazy about him!
We cannot imagine
Existence without him!
His magic protects us from Ogre and Ghoul.
He’s one mighty dude, and we think he is cool!
(We think he is cool! We think he is cool!)

We all love Zorrastro
Because he’s terrific!
His judgements are just
And his reign is pacific.
He does stuff with magic like no-one else can.
He’s handsome and strong, and we think he’s the Man!
(We think he’s the Man! We think he’s the Man!)

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By: macatac7 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/#comment-6357 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 01:45:27 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2660#comment-6357 Final Fantasy 13 was the reason I bought the PS3 console too.

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By: Burbie52 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/#comment-6333 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 20:20:01 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2660#comment-6333 Ah, RPG’s my absolute favorite genre. Like many I grew up reading fantasy books and still do to this day it is my favorite genre as well. Final Fantasy is my favorite series, and I have played and beaten almost all of the PS2 fantasy games that were available and also the ones on Game Cube (though they are few). I have played Dragon Age and Awakenings on PS3 as well as Final Fantasy 13 of course, in fact that one is why I bought the console. I can’t wait til DA2 comes out in a few days, I pre-ordered of course.
Lately I have been engrossed in RDR which is a cross between shooter and rpg, and also the first shooting game I have ever liked.
As usual you have hit the nail on the head with this article Granny. I usually play as a male when given the option though, I like their strength. I played DA all the way through as a male, low caste dwarf rogue, a first for me. One of the many things I like about being able to create your own characters is naming them, it is fun to try and find the right name to match the avatar you create. My dwarf was Griegs.
I just wish they would make a few rpgs we could play with friends online, like rdr is. Now that would be a gas. Great job.

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By: macatac7 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/#comment-6329 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 18:35:53 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2660#comment-6329 Really enjoyed reading this. Your article brought back a lot og fond memories. On my first computer, an Apple ][ computer, I played Zork and then Wizardry. I remember staying up late mapping out dungeons on graph paper. My son also loves RPG games and is currently playing Final Fantasy VII (LOL, bragging rights. I can relate to that with my own son). It is not the graphics it is the story and the characters. Since junior high, I have been a reader of science fiction and fantasy and it was a natural progression to RPGs. This is what was ineresting about Home: a fantasy world where I can dress like I wouldn’t in real life, embark on adventures with friends, and become emtionally connected wirh those friends. The big obvious difference between Home and RPGs is that the characters on Home are real people, genuine friends, with friendships that transcends beyond turning off the game.

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By: cthulu93 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/03/rpg-the-ultimate-fantasy/#comment-6292 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 10:53:28 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2660#comment-6292 My 1st Rpg was D&D and ever since they have been 1 of my favorite genres.The leveling up and exploring hidden/new lands is always good but for me the deal sealer/breaker is the boss battles.If i can beat the early boss fights in 2or3 ho-hum moves its ejection and forgetting time.Truely great rpg bad guys will have a few wins against some individuals of my party,in D&D my best friend repeatedly ran into a female jewel thief that always seemed to end up with his jewels in her hands.It was a great day when i was able to return his pilfered manhood by returning the jewels she had stolen from him along with her invisibility cloak and her head,lol good times.Oblivion is as close to the D&D i used to play as any ps3 game ive played,which is why i logged an ungodly amount of hours on oblivion,and i can’t wait til the new one comes out.

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