Comments on: Boo Hoo, I Have No Trophy Room

By: SealWyf

SealWyf — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:50:23 +0000

For a while I had my PlanetLand apartment set up as a LocoRoco museum, complete with exhibit area, gift shop and museum cafeteria. It gave me a nice space to display my LocoRoco unlocks, and appealed to my inner museum geek.

A purpose-built Museum space would definitely be a win. Especially if it had lots of good picture frame locations. For, you know, art shows and stuffs.

By: Dj_Tenchu

Dj_Tenchu — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:49:57 +0000

amen! and speaking of clubs. where is a new clubhouse???

By: cthulu93

cthulu93 — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:48:10 +0000

Im pretty sure the villians lair has something like this 4 home items but if i remember correctly there is only space 4 a handful of items,so its certainly doable.I just can’t get excited about this while we still have no downloadable music 4 our personal spaces,we only have a 100 friend list,our club menu is a mess,and many other things i’d rather see b 4 this”hall of fame”/trophy room.

By: Dj_Tenchu

Dj_Tenchu — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:54:23 +0000

i just use my Loot stage 2 to display my game reward home items. Should the day come that i have more then 50, i suppose i’ll buy some other space and continue. a museum space would be cool, for those who like to display trophy like items. lil lit up alcoves and what not to display items in a “look at me” fashion for those that want it. 5 bucks, and sony gets their cheddar too! win/win

By: KLCgame

KLCgame — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:36:29 +0000

The PSN Hall of Fame space will always be an interesting idea but I prefer the clothes or ornaments I get from playing games.

By: NorseGamer

NorseGamer — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:30:41 +0000

Now, even though I’m not a trophy collector, I do want to speak in their defense for a moment: for some gamers, trophies *do* add to the gaming experience.

I can remember, back when I was a kid, playing Ultima V on my Apple IIe; when you beat that game — which took *months* if you were lucky — you could actually send in a completion letter to Richard Garriott (and when you’re eight years old, Lord British IS A REAL PERSON, yo). Now that’s a trophy.

Do trophies add to the gaming experience? Perhaps. For some it does, and for some it doesn’t. My point is that there’s plenty of room in the gaming universe for both viewpoints, and we should be respectful of both.

Now, that said, I *want* to see multiple articles on this social issue. Koz has already submitted one. I’d like to see more, from both points of view. This is a hot-button social issue which is perfect for HSM to cover.

I would request, though: as much as we’re human, and there are various topics which exasperate us all, let’s be respectful of differing viewpoints when writing our responses.

Put the invective in the article itself.

Now, that said, if we return to the original topic of *this* particular article, which specifically deals with the “hall of fame” trophy room and not trophy-hunting itself: yeah, the trophy room is a silly thing. I keep hoping to see Graham Chapman come in, clad in an RAF uniform: “Yes, yes, yes, too silly, too silly. Now then: get on with it. Get *on* with it!”

By: KLCgame

KLCgame — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:46:54 +0000

Yea on rainy days my wifi is terrible. But great point some of the trophies on X-men Wolverine encourages the player to take the path less traveled and its great but I wish people would take the path less traveled without the need for a trophy to reward you for it.

By: TheOtherRainMan

TheOtherRainMan — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:35:31 +0000

You got the Heavy Rain plat on a Rainy Day? What a coincidence!

TBH, I don’t care that much for trophies. The issue is that too many developers either slap them on at the last minute or don’t put much thought into them. The fact is that trophies, at their best, can make the experience much deeper by encouraging players to take a route they never would have taken nor delve deeper into a game.

By: KLCgame

KLCgame — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:08:21 +0000

I completely agree with you keara, I have only 1 platinum and that is in heavy rain. I got it on a rainy day and I had no internet so I used a non-internet necessary game, heavy rain because I love the concept and I was bored. I use games for joy I couldn’t care less about trophies, if I happen to get one good for me, but I will never stress over getting a trophy. There is no point in obsessing over trophies. There is no need for “I must have that trophy *twitch*” games are for fun they always have and hopefully always will be.

By: TheOtherRainMan

TheOtherRainMan — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:42:49 +0000

This is Home, not Neptune High!

/Veronica Mars reference

By: cthulu93

cthulu93 — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:10:32 +0000

I hear u keara,theres waaaaaay 2 much importance placed on trophies by some ppl.If i had a nickel 4 every person that made fun of my trophy lvl i’d b rich,the problem 4 me is 2 of the games i put the most hours into had zero trophies so when they c my trophy lvl of 4 they assume ive never finished a game when in fact if oblivion and civ. revolutions had trophies i’d b much much higher.Proving once again judging a book by its cover is a mistake.Maybe the pic of a crying baby was a little out of line because it implied cube was suggesting these ppl that still want this r crybabies but i didn’t read the original post so i can’t say that the suggestion was invalid or not.Anyways,i think even the ppl that still want this would agree that there r many other things on the wish list that should b attended 2 1st.

By: keara22hi

keara22hi — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:48:23 +0000

I apologize if I sound resentful but I get really annoyed when some preteen sidles up to me, reads my profile, and says, “u nvr got da plat in dat?”. No, you addle-pated cretin, I have more to do in my life than to play through WKC a third time! It wasn’t that great a game the FIRST time. Same with FF13. I don’t care if YOU love to collect trophies -- if that’s what floats your boat, sobeit. But I am pizzed off about how the focus for so many of these kids has shifted to trophy collecting and their disdain for those of us who refuse to make a cult out of trophy collecting with a special trophy room to serve as the altar!

By: kozfear

kozfear — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:40:50 +0000

*has something in queue about trophies…ahem!*

By: NorseGamer

NorseGamer — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:10:15 +0000

I love a good, spirited debate. And while this discussion has drifted away from the actual article that Cubes wrote, a wonderful topic for a new article has emerged: the great trophy debate. How do trophies fit into the modern gaming experience, and how does it contribute to classism in Home?

Anyone wanna tackle this? I want to read it.

By: Elhazzared

Elhazzared — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 06:26:34 +0000

Personally i love trophies. I do crave them to an extent. But if i just plain don’t enjoy the game then i wont put myself through the misery of grinding to get that plat. I too bought my ps3 before trophy support and i still own 5 or so working ataris. All bought brand new. I remember the Video For Home and its mention of a Hall of Fame to show off trophies. I admit, i got swept up in collecting trophies to get ready for the room cause yea. i thought it was an awesome concept. Now i see that it wouldn’t really work in home the way it has evolved. I still collect trophies like a beast, but i do it because thats what i enjoy about the games. Thats why we all play games in the first place. For fun. I do think an alternative could possibly be implemented in home. Maybe an active item pedastal with a hologram top displaying 5 or 10 trophies you choose. It would do it in a slide show manner. Interested visitors could click a button to learn more about any that catch their eye. I think that is a good compromise and maybe pheasable… maybe not.

By: Dj_Tenchu

Dj_Tenchu — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 06:14:13 +0000

understandable. i personally agree with cube’s standpoint, but would like to correct the fact that this space as touted back in the day, was not 2D pics, but life sized 3d items as depicted, and while this idea has been translated into home rewards, the original “hall of Fame” has bit the dust. And while i think having the giant dragon trophy i saw from ALPHA Home back then, the real functionality of it has disapeared in Beta. My personal whine about the things shown from ALPHA Home, is the sports complex!!
Where did that go?
and my comment was in reference to the bashing going on of those who choose to persue trophies, just because you yourself do not see a point, do not agree with, or have had a bad expirience with those who trophy hunt, doesn’t mean we should lump everyone together. We support all types of gamers here so lets keep the gloves up eh?

By: NorseGamer

NorseGamer — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 06:05:47 +0000

Embracing gaming is not the same thing as embracing the juvenility of some of the whining over a feature that would serve little useful purpose in Home, even if it was feasible to develop.

Cubes’ article is a direct response to a thread which appeared on the Sony forum, in which the topic of the trophy room was once again raised in a silly, poorly-reasoned and accusatory fashion. And HSM has never shied away from scathing attacks on stupidity.

That said, as to the subject of casual gamers versus hardcore gamers, which has developed in the feedback to this article: I personally respect both sides of the debate, because if trophies add to the entertainment for some gamers, then that’s great. On the other hand, if it adds nothing to the experience for others, that’s great too. The only thing that I personally hope not to see is trophies being used as a cheap substitute for quality to try to drive numbers.

By: Dj_Tenchu

Dj_Tenchu — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 04:52:25 +0000

agreed. i bought my first PS3 before there even was a home. I bought it to play games, and at a whopping 65 bucks a pop, you’re darn skippy imma get as much out of a game as i can. and i’ve been gaming for 24 years, HARDCORE.Still holding records on a few, including arcade games. Before we had trophies/ accomplishements on consoles, we had the almighty high score. i remember playing super mario back in the day and trying to get my score to end in 5 so i got more cannon bursts.
so in the end what we’re looking at is two types of gamers. Casual gamers who play to have fun, be social, and just get through the game; And competitive, those who aim higher, shoot for the high score, and try to be the best. and i personally respect both types, as i have been both types.
if people enjoy these things, who are we to judge them for it? if you yourself don’t game that way then great, go play your game and have fun. but this looking down the nose perspective seems wrong imo.

By: Stryctnin

Stryctnin — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 01:03:32 +0000

Well, I do enjoy collecting trophies. To me it’s like collecting action figures. It adds extra game play to a game that you’ve spent anywhere up to 60 bucks on, so I like to try to get my moneys worth out of it. Going for the platinum adds an extra challenge to the game. As far as a space in Home that displays your trophy collection I wouldn’t want it. From my time being in Home I have noticed a trend of people that spend a lot of time in Home bashing those who collect trophies and play games and I’ve also seen people who collect games bash people who stay in Home. For the most part we are all gamers, we bought our PS3 to play games on.

By: MJG74

MJG74 — Tue, 15 Feb 2011 23:38:50 +0000

OH why not...trophies started with achievements