Comments on: A Feminine Perspective On Digital Flirting http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/ The PlayStation Home Magazine Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:20:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.2 By: cthulu93 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5727 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:16:39 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5727 UMMM now i’m just confused,u say it’s bad form to speak for others but u seem to b saying it’s alright to act for others.Words are one thing,actions are usually more invasive.I think were straying from the main topic here so let me try 2 say this in a different way,if a “girl” wears a provocative outfit males will hit on her it’s gonna happen.All i’m trying 2 say is it shouldn’t b a surprise to her when this happens,is it right? i think i made it clear what i thought of that above,no it’s not right that she will b accosted ad nauseum.I’m not sure going vigilante is the right way to go either it could get u banned for helping out if the wrong words are said and as far as i know there isn’t a way to find out what those words are exactly.

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By: Terra_Cide http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5689 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 03:15:59 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5689 I am not so naive to believe that what is and what ought to be are the same.

Change begins with the individual, and if the perpetrators of such behavior do not of their own volition correct themselves (as demonstrated by the ones who bounce to one female avatar after another), then it’s high time the populace of Home who do know better to step up and demonstrate that this behavior is not tolerated.

You can take a lot of abuse if you trade your skin in for leather, however not all of the female user base has developed such a defense (not that they should need to, in an ideal situation, but it does come in handy) to handle the horde of Home leg-humpers.

And never speak for someone else. It’s just bad form.

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By: CheekyGuy http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5686 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 03:08:33 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5686 I think Home can be a great way for young guys to LEARN how to talk to girls, some may have confidence issues or some are just plain idiots that don’t quite know the etiquette. That there are unwritten rules out there in order to survive in the Human jungle, and this can also transend into real life.

I found it an intresting perspective into the female world in which a woman checks the other girls out before she even ‘notices’ a guy. I’m now 35 and I hadn’t even noticed that. Of course as a guy too, I would maybe at first spot the girl i would like to talk t, But I’m also looking around at my nearest competitor, probably that guy thats much more bigger than me, wears a better suit (This guy could be carrying SERIOUS cash)and far more aggressive and likely to get his own way. That possible Boyfriend or Partner that could easily be watching me from the corner of the room and leap out and beat the crap out of me. So I guess I have to move with caution too.

For me.. On Home, (Real Life too) If i see a girl on her own, I have to question ‘Does she just want to be on her own?’ I would sit or stand maybe at a distance from her., play it safe, because I wouldnt want her threatened by me. Make some small talk, something observational other than the weather crack a small joke. If she doesn’t respond to either of those things it’s just as well to leave her be.

I hadn’t realised until now that most of my friendslist is made up of the Female friends i meet on Home, I’m comfortable with talking to girls, probably more so than men. Maybe its the constant change in conversation women have that interests me, i love how they can jump into one subject then into another with ease. I’m jealous at how open women can be when they greet one another in the street, just that big warm, open hug. If i did that with a guy (Heterosexual of course) it’s not going to be recieved as well.

I come from a one parent family, I’ve been surrounded by women all my life. And as for finding romance on Home and beyond? Anythings possible, and I’m a single man that can never say never and I’m not going to predict where or HOW I meet that special person. But I’m not desparate for love, if shes crazy enough to stick around me then thats a good thing, but for now I’m happy with the talking and dancing and all the crazy parties i get invited to.

Terra_Cide, this is a great articel and you really have opened up something here.

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By: cthulu93 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5608 Mon, 21 Feb 2011 05:12:39 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5608 Lol,very true Mad Adam.There is more than 1 industry based on the premise”sex sells”,even pixelated sex.

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By: NorseGamer http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5598 Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:48:47 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5598 Completely agreed, Mad Adam. “Sup” is an invitation to dinner, not a greeting. Oy.

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By: Mad Adam http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5588 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:50:34 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5588 This is a good article. I can’t stand it when (sorry if I piss people off!) I get acronyms instead of whole words. Oh, numbers for words is in that list too. It’s hard to read that crap! That whole “sup” thing has got to go. Good article Irish!

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By: Mad Adam http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5585 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:45:20 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5585 Pixels on a screen. Ah, those fond memories of seeing Lara Crofts butt for the very first time. Good times man, good times. :)

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By: cthulu93 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5578 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:45:26 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5578 Well i didn’t think terra believed all males would act appropiately so the statement about any1 that believed they would do so also believes in the easter bunny and the tooth fairy wasn’t directed at her but i can see how it could seem that’s how i intended it,so 2 make it clear i wasn’t refering 2 terra.While she makes it clear she thinks its wrong 4 males 2 act this way i didn’t believe she was saying young males would act appropiately in this situation unsupervised.I didn’t think that was the point in contention here and wasn’t attributing it 2 her but if it SEEMED that way i wish 2 make it clear that it was a general statement 4 any1 who thinks young males will act appropiately on their own,without compulsion, when it comes 2 this kind of thing and not directed at terra.I don’t believe she mentioned how she felt this fundamental shift in the behavior of males would b brought about,and my statement was 4 those who think young males will change their behavior on their own.

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By: NorseGamer http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5574 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:57:57 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5574 As always, I love a good, spirited debate — and this is certainly a hot-button topic.

You both have good points; just remember to separate the points themselves from the personal emotions that are beneath the surface.

No ad hominem attacks from either side, please. :)

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By: cthulu93 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5573 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:50:16 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5573 Time out 2
I never said a”girl”would deserve this kind of treatment just that it shouldn’t b unexpected.At the moment sony refuses or can’t put a stop 2 this kind of behavior and any1 that thinks all young males will act decently in the above situation also believe in the tooth fairy and the easter bunny.Just look at history and u will see how far men that aren’t under some1 elses control will go in the quest 2 impress or possess females.I am not condoning or endorsing these actions just telling it the way it is.Having said that some things should be expected from the guys as well,1st until proven otherwise,males should at least entertain the possibility that”she”might b a guy living in mom’s trailer down by the river.2nd That having made your intentions known in a public setting don’t be 2 surprised if she embarresses u into a quivering puddle of piss in public.I don’t necessarily condone these things either but they are realities and thats what i’m discussing here,there is a vast difference between what is and what should be.I was talking about what is,you are refering 2 what should be.There is also a big difference between expect and deserve,example:the jews of germany in the 30s and 40s should have expected that hitler would try 2 exterminate them but they certainly didn’t deserve it.Your statement”That’s like saying such atrocious behavior in the real world is acceptable because the girl is wearing a bikini and therefore any and all unwelcome attention she may get she should expect,and therefore deserve”is therefore incorrectly based on the expect=deserve fallacy.

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By: Terra_Cide http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5558 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 16:13:03 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5558 Hold on. Time out.

No, it is NEVER okay for ANYONE to mistreat ANYBODY over the way they dress; provocatively or not, and it is NOT acceptable to say, “well, she’s dressed that way, she (could be he) should expect it. This is Home.”

That’s like saying such atrocious behavior in the real world is acceptable because the girl is wearing a bikini and therefore any and all unwelcome attention she may get she should expect, and therefore deserve.

That’s like saying a child should have expected to get smacked because he misbehaved.

These are PIXELS on a SCREEN, for crying out loud. P.I.X.E.L.S. You’re getting hot and bothered over a bunch of ones and zeros?! Seriously? You don’t even know if the living breathing human being on the other side is even the sex they’re representing themselves in this virtual world to begin with. If you have the mental acuity and maturity to know how to operate a PlayStation, it shouldn’t be that much of a stretch to realize that what’s on the screen isn’t exactly what you’re gonna get.

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By: cthulu93 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5536 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:56:11 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5536 This situation is like putting on a dress made of raw meat and jumping into a cage with many lions that haven’t eaten in a week then screaming”y did they bite me?”lol.

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By: cthulu93 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5533 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:49:11 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5533 Lol SPAGO’S?most males on home r of the McDonalds crowd.While it is wrong 4 guys 2 think just because a girl dresses a certain way shes desperate 4 male attention so he must give her an overdose of it,its also wrong for girls 2 dress this way,provocatively,and expect a guy on home 2 treat u like your wearing a nun’s outfit.This is home,any1 thats been on it over a month or so knows as soon as some skin below the neck,hands excluded,is shown its like feeding time 4 piranhas.

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By: Terra_Cide http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5507 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:27:10 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5507 *Tsk* Don’t these silly boys know that there are in fact no real girls on the Internet? Absolutely none. It’s a myth.

All joking aside though, I’ve had that old chestnut, “r u a lesbian?” thrown at me more than a few times as a result of my swift, unfeeling-meat-cleaver-style of dealing with unwelcome digital male suitors (i.e., “Do you really talk like that in real life, or are you too stupid to care about first impressions?”), and to be honest, I take it as a point of pride. The reasoning being is that if their behavior in Home is any indication of what they would do in real life, then most definitely I’d be pulling in more women!

The reality is, if your intentions for going on Home are of an amorous variety (or something more base), then you 99.99% of the time will be brushed off like so much pixelated lint. The majority of those who come to Home (and stay on Home) do so for pretty much the same reason, and it’s been mentioned here numerous times: they have some sort of “damage” about them that makes real life social interaction a challenge. They come to Home because they feel it’s a safe place to get away from those challenges.

In the end, it’s really all about respect, and those who cannot abide by that won’t last very long on Home.

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By: keara22hi http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5500 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:40:13 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5500 I have a slightly different perspective on this. Yes, you are absolutely right that women dress to impress other women. However, the girl walks into a bar dressed in a very provocative way (“If I’m wearing a more suggestive outfit, it’s because I want to look good in front of my friends. It’s a female competition thing.”) and checks out the other girls: “are those boobs real or inplants?”. the men look and say to themselves, “she’s hot -- she’s not”.

Meanwhile, a lady walks into Spago’s for lunch dressed in her best suit and checks out the other ladies: (“are those real pearls or are they fake?”). the men look and say to themselves, “she’s hot -- she’s not”

The big difference however, is that after the initial assessment of ‘hotness’, a man decides ‘do I want to date her or just boink her?” The more suggestive the outfit, the less likely he will take her anywhere but the closest motel. THe more fashionable the outfit, a man has to decide “can I afford her for the long-haul or do I just want a trophy date for a big event?”

So, the flirting has another dimension: do you want him looking at your boobs or at your brains? Are you looking for a one-night stand or an ongoing relationship? Note, in a virtual reality, each is a valid experience -- but you have to consider how you want to be evaluated by that male pea-brain and how you want him to treat you.

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By: NorseGamer http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5496 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:11:33 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5496 Irish is a friend of mine in real life, so I didn’t want to talk about this article until it actually materialized.

(And, of course, after months of cajoling her to write something, she now wants to get on a podcast and begin phase two of taking over the world. Hm.)

I agree, though, it’s a remarkable article.

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By: FilthCrow http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5495 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:05:11 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5495 I think the most important thing to take away from this for most guys is: get a keyboard and learn to read and write. The world literacy rate is at 85% and that includes 3rd-world nations, as well. In Home, I’d be thrilled if 85% of the people I talk to were literate.

Also, your defense of the provocative clothing on the females is right on the mark, it really is a disgusting justification to treat them like bimbos. Great report. Also, these phrases should all cause the user to get shocked through their controller:

1 -- u got mike
2 -- u got piks
3 -- were u frum

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By: cthulu93 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5484 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:01:27 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5484 Interjecting from a distance is something i advised in relation 2 a different article and was told it was eavesdropping yet here i see no mention of the E word,hmmmm.There are other similiarities 2 the bar setting and home as well,if your the type of person that seems 2 make new friends every time u go 2 a bar u will do well on home making friends too.Something most guys on home don’t seem 2 get,maybe cause it requires effort,is that alot of male/real female relationships start out as friends and evolve from there.If a”girl”asks u for pics of your private areas in the 1st sentence its not a real female.Furthermore unless the girl in question is local 2 you in real life or your willing 2 travel across country y even pursue her romantically?for some cam time?there are a million,im guessing here,porn sites that im sure offer more for less effort.So ladies if a guy immediately wants 2 cam up or see your pics of private areas its probably a kid whose parents have blocked those sites as a good percentage of males won’t put in that kind of extra effort for an uncertain pay-off.Unless the above criteria apply its only gonna remain an online friendship with minor benefits,benefits that can b easily surpassed elsewhere on the internet,that is if mommy and daddy haven’t blocked that avenue.

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By: Burbie52 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5479 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:10:37 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5479 Siren you are a very astute young lady. I have a good friend who has no trouble at all talking to and befriending women in Home, and he uses all of the techniques you described. He is well dressed, has a keyboard, and also knows how to talk to women without sounding like he is coming on to them, which in reality he isn’t.
Many young people today think that having a relationship means jumping into bed on the first day they date. This is one of the reasons I think that they want to do the same in Home in a digital sense and say silly things like “do you have a cam?” as though all the girls are just waiting for them to ask this question so they can comply.
Great article, now we just need to get the young men who need to see it in here so they can learn something.

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By: Joanna Dark http://www.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/a-feminine-perspective-on-digital-flirting/#comment-5467 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:34:01 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=2890#comment-5467 Love the article. Nice job hun! :)

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