Comments on: Prejudice in Home http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/ The PlayStation Home Magazine Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:20:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.2 By: johneboy1970 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-51 Sun, 28 Nov 2010 22:21:00 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-51 Agreed, FilthCrow.

Additionally, I take some umbrage in Stephen’s apparent accusation. I have used both terms interchangeably in conversation and in written articles, yet I am not (or have ever been) part of any so-called ‘hate group’, nor had any associations with any organizations who have any sort of intent to deny equal rights and Constitutional liberties to any one for any reason. Nor am I personally a ‘hater’.

With all due respect, I believe Stephen may have read one too many press releases from the Southern Poverty Law Center or similar groups who receive funding via the creation of boogey men and bad guys.

Again, execelent article…I am very much looking foward to any follow ups you post, Keara.

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By: FilthCrow http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-46 Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:37:12 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-46 So is Stephen’s attitude caused by a personality preference or a personality orientation? Or, perhaps, a personality disorder? I don’t get offended when people accuse me of “preferring” the opposite sex and neither of my gay male friends have ever been offended by me mentioning their “preference”. Preference is preference, regardless if it is a matter of choice. Orientation is supported by preference and vice-versa.

Acting offended by such phrasing does more harm against gay equality than any hate group could possibly do.

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By: shoryuken http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-44 Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:19:00 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-44 I agree. I have seen this on both my fiance’s account and my own. Since she’s new to Home, I usually sit next to her and explain the attacker’s actions and how she can avoid them. Very nice article.

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By: NorseGamer http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-42 Fri, 26 Nov 2010 03:49:38 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-42 Stephen, there’s not much I can do for you except to agree to disagree. For the record, I personally have no issue with homosexuality, marriage equality, and so forth. Think about it: if I did, would this article have even seen the light of day with HSM?

To imply that I have a biased position — or that I’m ignorant of the subject matter — because of the fact that I’m supporting the author’s choice of terminology is, frankly, ludicrous.

Keara’s suggestion to you was an excellent one, and I’m disappointed you didn’t take her up on it. I, for one, would have been very curious to read it.

Best of luck to you. Take care.

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By: Stephen http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-41 Thu, 25 Nov 2010 20:44:03 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-41 For some reason, I can’t reply to you thus am replying to my own comment. I didn’t say haters, I said hate groups as in agencies and organizations that do not support marriage equality, etc. No corporation, media outlet, state or federal agency; uses “sexual preference” because it is the incorrect term. About preferences, those are mate or partner preferences or even what turns someone on or who they are attracted to. That is not what sexual preference means. I appreciate your offer however will decline. I think your editor has already established a biased position with his “stands behind” comment versus trying to ascertain further information about a topic he clearly knows nothing about. I won’t visit this site any longer but do thank you for the dialogue.

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By: Keara22hi http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-40 Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:48:30 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-40 I re-read the article, Stephen. I was not aware that haters use that term as part of their rationale for hating (as if you had a choice!). Most of my real life friends have close friends, family members, or business associates are homosexual or bisexual. Without exception, these friends are accepting and supporting of all people as people. When they say ‘preferences’, it is choices within that orientation. One of my lesbian friends ‘prefers’ lesbians who are very masculine in appearance. While another wants the opposite. But I did not go into a lengthy discussion of this in the article for Home because the ‘haters’ in Home who are so strongly prejudiced against gays don’t differentiate in their hatred. Anyone who is different from their own self-image is to be hated, tormented, and attacked.

I am surprised, Stephen, that you did not point out the real weakness in that article: I did not attempt to disguise myself as ‘gay’ the way I did with the other prejudices (age, color, and weight). I really had no idea how to go about it effectively. All I did was observe and report. It became the motivation for my other article in here -- the one on cross-dressing -- because I discovered that there was a very wide range of preferences and not all of the people accused of being gay were actually homosexuals.

What this magazine needs (and I am not equipped to write it) is an inside view of what it is like to be a homosexual in Home. You seem to be quite articulate, Stephen. Why not contact our editor and discuss it with him? I would love to read what you could contribute on that subject.

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By: Stephen http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-38 Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:16:40 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-38 That’s fine Norse, I simply pointed it out. No one uses sexual preference other than hate groups. The proper term is in fact sexual orientation, which applies to straight, gay and bisexual.

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By: Stephen http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-37 Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:14:21 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-37 The proper and only correct term is sexual orientation because it covers both individuals that choose and those don’t that. Whereas preference is very specific but it’s not the end of the world. This is HSM not the NY Times.

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By: NorseGamer http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-34 Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:19:42 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-34 On the subject of sexual orientation versus sexual preference: I tend to agree with the Kinsey Scale — that very few people are exclusively heterosexual or exclusively homosexual. From that standpoint, then, the semantics get very gray, indeed. HSM stands behind the writer’s choice of verbiage.

The human-behavior stories in Home are fascinating to me. How people act when they’re conveniently and safely anonymous is a wonderful look underneath the veneer of civilization we abide by in real life.

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By: Keara22hi http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-28 Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:50:03 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-28 Interesting point, Stephen, is that, in Home I discovered that most of the cross-dressers I interviewed were experimenting with choices. In some instances, the experimentation had led to some self-discovery about orientation. But for others it was pertinent to a specific situation where, once it was resolved, the experiment was abandoned. Unfortunately, the editor draws the line at my tendency to get too technical and far too verbose -- so you get the truncated version in the magazine. But, take my word for it, the research was fascinating. Where else except in Home can you see blind, unreasoning hatred spewed forth without fear of repercussion?

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By: johneboy1970 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-27 Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:18:53 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-27 There are many people who choose to be with the same sex, as well as thoes who feel they are compelled. Both terms are correct and proper. I am stunned that you didn’t know that.

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By: Stephen http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-26 Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:11:51 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-26 “Sexual preferences” implies choice, the correct and proper term is “sexual orientation” I’m stunned a college professor is unaware of this distinction.

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By: johneboy1970 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-21 Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:27:44 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-21 Interesting observations, Keara. But your investigations beg the question: where does such behavior stem from?

While I have no doubt as to the certainty that there are a percentage of home users who have allowed petty bigotry to become part of their general nature (both in and out of Home), I have some suspicions that may not be the case with every encounter of pixilated prejudice.

There are some who go around Home with the sole intent of causing some sort of disturbance. This is, apparently, their idea of “fun”.

Case in point: while in CP not too long ago, I saw someone dressed up in a sombrero (from RDR, if I’m not mistaken), milling about the space. He would let loose with a venomous diatribe against some ethnic group or another; in between each tirade he would mutter, “Just spreading my Hate”. While the person may indeed have been a hate-fueled dullard in real life, my gut was telling me that he was doing it just to get a rise out of people. And he succeeded to an extent, as those around him (including me, at first) reacted negatively to what he was saying.

Then there are some who simply don’t know any better. I was approached once by a fellow who started up a conversation with, “I am going to molest you”, followed up a moment later by, “jk”. After letting him know that this was an inappropriate way to say ‘hi’, he claimed he was “only kidding” and that “I shouldn’t take him seriously.”

Having teenage children, I can attest that there is indeed a current social phenomenon which allows for one to say something completely inane (or even downright rude) followed up with “jk” or “only joking” as if that makes what one said acceptable. Perhaps some of this foolishness we see in Home is an extension of such, with the ‘jk’ implied as it is only a virtual world.

You also pointed out in your article that certain forms of prejudice are seemingly allowable while others are quickly condemned. The blame for that, in my opinion, lies firmly at the feet of the TV media.
When we watch the news (or any program, for that matter) we see strong condemnation of apparent acts of racism. On the flip side we also see almost a celebration of a variety of other dehumanizing behavior.

While it is considered out of bounds to portray some racial stereotypes on TV, negative generalities of other human aspects ( weight, age, religion, and so on) are regularly bandied about; very often the exact same stereotypes are used in show after show ad-nauseum. Reality shows are filled with small-minded, selfish, insipid, petty, and vain people who we probably wouldn’t want to share a car-pool with…yet they are cheered on and encouraged as some sort of twisted paragon to be aspired to. Aspirations, in my opinion, which some in Home have apparently taken to heart.

Some of the negative behavior can be ode to ‘group think’ (or monkey-see-monkey-do-ism), as some users try to find acceptance in a strange place. Some others may be the school bully in real life…or the victim of such abuse striking back angrily at the world in their own fashion.

Unfortunately, much as in the real world, there is very little that can cure such problems. Perhaps articles like this one, as well as patient Home users, will serve as a tool for education to some who would perpetrate such nonsense with the hope that at least some of this behavior can be stemmed.

Sorry for getting a bit long winded, heh heh, but I found your article and investigations fascinating. I’m looking forward to reading more of your observations in the future.

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By: Nos http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-20 Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:05:15 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-20 Agreed.

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By: LordDeath50 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-16 Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:58:21 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-16 Very, very, true. I step up and try to help those people getting attacked anytime I see it. Sad thing is, sometimes the attacks turn on me and the person I was helping even joins in (how ironic is that?). I get called gay, shemale, transexual, bi, etc. You name it I got called it while living my female world of Home. No one ever defends me, all just look even as I try to reason with them. Some join in. The only time I get help is when my friends are online. It’s not the words that upset me, it’s that fact people can be so irgorant and closed minded. Also you raise the question how would some of these people act in real life? Would they do this? Some, yes (watch homeless people getting beat up by teens, or gays assulted, blacks assulted, etc). Some use this game (and others) to say what they always think but have to keep kept hidden from public. Which is pure cowardarly. Bottem line, people need to treat others with respect both, on and offline.

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By: Bonecrusher78 http://www.hsmagazine.net/2010/11/prejudice-in-home/#comment-12 Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:30:39 +0000 http://www.hsmagazine.net/?p=170#comment-12 Sad but true, best article i read about Home so far. Keep up the good work!

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