MARTIN JACKSON I HAVE ABOUT 85 YEARS OF GOOD MEMORY TO CALL ON. I'M 90, NAD SO I'M NOT CO UNTING MY FIRST FIVE YEARS OF LIFE. I'LL TRY TO GIVE YOU AS CLEAR A PICTURE AS I CAN. IF YOU WANT TO GIVE ME A COPY OF WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO WRITE, I'LL APPRE CIATE IT. MAYBE SOME OF MY CHILDREN WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT. I WAS HERE IN TEXAS WHEN THE CIVIL WAR WAS FIRST TALKED ABOUT. I WAS HERE WHEN THE WAR STARTED AND FOLLOWED MY YOUNG MASTER INTO IT WITH THE FIRST TEXAS C AVALRY. I WAS HERE DURING RECONSTRUCTION, AFTER THE WAR. I WAS HERE DURING THE EUROPEAN WORLD WAR AND THE SECOND WEEK AFTER THE UNITED STATES DECLARED WAR ON GERMANY I ENLISTED AS COOK AT CAMP LEON SPRINGS. THIS SOUNDS AS IF I LIKED THE WAR RACKET. BUT, AS A MATTER OF FACT, I NEVE R WORE A UNIFORM--GREY COAT OR KHAKI COAT--OR CARRIED A GUN, UNLESS IT HAPPENED TO BE ONE WORTH SAVING AFTER SOME CONFEDERATE SOLDIER GOT SHOT. I WAS OFFICIAL LUGGER IN OF MEN THAT GOT WOUNDED, AND MIGHT HAVE BEEN CALLED A RED CROSS WORKER IF WE HAD HAD SUCH A CORPS CONNECTED WITH OUR COMPANY. MY FATHER WAS HEAD COOK FOR THE BATTALION AND BETWEEN TIMES I HELPED HIM OUT WITH THE MESS. THERE WAS SOME DIFFERENCE IN THE FOOD SERVED TO SOLDIERS IN 1861 AND 1917] JUST WHAT MY FEELINGS WAS ABOUT THE WAR, I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE O UT MYSELF. I KNEW THE YANKS WERE GOING TO WIN, FROM THE BEGINNING. I WANTED TH EM TO WIN AND LICK US SOUTHERNERS, BUT I HOPED THEY WAS GOING TO DO IT WITHOUT W IPING OUT OUR COMPANY. I'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN A MINUTE. AS I SAID, OUR COMP ANY WAS THE FIRST TEXAS CAVALRY. COLONEL BUCHELL WAS OUR COMMANDER. HE WAS A F ULL BLOODED GERMAN AND AS FINE A MAN AND A SOLDIER AS YOU EVER SAW. HE WAS KILL ED AT THE BATTLE OF MARSHALL AND DIED IN MY ARMS. YOU MAY ALSO BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT MY OLD MASTER, ALVY FITZPATRICK, WAS THE GRANDFATHER OF GOVERNOR JIM FERGUSON. LOTS OF OLD S3AVES CLOSES THE DOOR BEFORE THEY TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THEIR D AYS OF SLAVERY. WHEN THE DOOR IS OPEN, THEY TELL HOW KIND THEIR MASTERS WAS AND HOW ROSY IT ALL WAS. YOU CAN'T BLAME THEM FOR THIS, BECAUSE THEY HAD PLENTY OF EARLY DISCIPLINE, MAKING THEM CAUTIOUS ABOUT SAYING ANYTHING UNCOMPLIMENTARY ABO UT THEIR MASTERS. I, MYSELF, WAS IN A LITTLE DIFFERENT POSITION THAN MOST SLAVE S AND, AS A CONSEQUENCE, HAVE NO GRUDGES OR RESENTMENT. HOWEVER, I CAN TELL YOU THE LIFE OF THE AVERAGE SLAVE WAS NOT ROSY. THEY WERE DEALT OUT PLENTY OF CRUE L SUFFERING. EVEN WITH MY GOOD TREATMENT, I SPENT MOST OF MY TIME PLANNING AND THINKING OF RUNNING AWAY. I COULD HAVE DONE IT EASY, BUT MY OLD FATHER USED TO SAY, NO U SE RUNNING FROM BAD TO WORSE, HUNTING BETTER. LOTS OF COLORED BOYS DID ESCAPE A ND JOINED THE UNION ARMY, AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF THEM DRAWING PENSION TODAY. M Y FATHER WAS ALWAYS COUSELING ME. HE SAID, EVERY MAN HAS TO SERVE GOD UNDER HIS OWN VINE AND FIG TREE. HE KEPT POINTING OUT THAT THE WAR WASN'T GOING TO LAST FOREVER, BUT THAT OUR FOREVER WAS GOING TO BE SPENT LIVING AMONG THE SOUTHERNERS , AFTER THEY GOT LICKED. HE'D CITE EXAMPLES OF HOW THE WHITES WOULD STAND FLAT FOOTED AND FIGHT FOR THE BLACKS THE SAME AS FOR MEMBERS OF THEIR OWN FAMILY. I KNEW THAT ALL WAS TRUE, BUT STILL I REBELLED, FROM INSIDE OF ME. I THINK I REAL LY WAS AFRAID TO RUN AWAY, BECAUSE I THOUGHT MY CONSCIENCE WOULD HAUNT ME. MY F ATHER KNEW I FELT THIS WAY AND HE'D RUB MY FEARS IN DEEPER. ONE OF HIS REMARKS STILL RINGS IN MY EARS: A CLEAR CONSCIENCE OPENS BOWELS, AND WHEN YOU HAVE A GU ILTY SOUL IT TIES YOU UP AND DEATH WILL NOT FOR LONG DESERT YOU. I HAVEN'T HAD ANY EDUCATrON. I SHOULD HAVE HAD ONE, THOUGH. -MY OLD MISSUS WAS SORRY, AFTER THE WAR, THAT SHE DIDN'T TEACH ME. HER NAME BEFORE SHE MARRIE D MY OLD MASTER WAS MRS LONG. SHE LIVED IN NEW YORK CITY AND HAD THREE SONS. W HEN MY OLD MASTER'S WIFE DIED, HE WROTE UP TO A FRIEND OF HIS IN NEW YORK, A VER Y PROMINENT MERCHANT NAMED C C STEWART. HE TOLD THIS FRIEND HE WANTED A WIFE AN D GAVE HIM SPECIFICATIONS FOR ONE. WELL, MRS LONG, WHOSE HUSBAND HAD DIED, FITT ED THE BILL AND SHE WAS SENT DOWN TO TEXAS. SHE BECAME MRS FITZPATRICK. SHE WA SN'T THE GRANDMOTHER OF JOHN FERGUSON. OLD FITZPATRICK HAD TWO WIVES THAT PRECE DED MRS LONG. ONE OF THE WIVES HAD A DAUGHTER NAMED FANNY FITZPATRICK AND IT WA S HER THAT WAS THE TEXAS GOVERNOR'S MOTHER. I SEEM TO HAVE THE COMPLICATED FAMI LY TREE OF MY OLD MASTER MORE CLEAR THAN I'VE GOT MY OWN, ALTHOUGH MINE CAN BE P UT IN A NUTSHELL] I MARRIED ONLY ONCE AND WAS BLESSED IN IT WITH FORTY FIVE YEA RS OF DEVOTION. I HAD THIRTEEN CHILDREN AND A BIG CROP OF GRANDCHILDREN. -MY EARLIEST RECOLLECTION IS THE DAY MY OLD BOSS PRESENTED ME TO HIS SON, JO E, AS HIS PROPERTY. I WAS ABOUT FIVE YEARS OLD AND MY NEW MASTER WAS ONLY TWO. IT WAS IN THE BATTLE OF MARSHALL, IN LOUISIANA, THAT COLONEL BUCHELL GOT SH OT. I WAS ABOUT THREE MILES FROM THE FRONT, WHERE I HAD PITCHED UP A KIND OF FI RST AID STATION. I WAS ALL ALONE THERE. I WATCHED THE WHOLE THING. I COULD HE AR THE SHOOTING AND SEE THE FIRING. I REMEMBER STANDING THERE AND THINKING THE SOUTH DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE. ALL OF A SUDDEN I HEARD SOMEONE CALL. IT WAS A SOL DIER, WHO WAS HALF CARRYING COLONEL BUCHELL IN. I DIDN'T DO NOTHING FOR THE COL ONEL. HE WAS TOO FAR GONE. I JUST HELD HIM COMFORTABLE, AND THAT WAS THE POSIT ION HE WAS IN WHEN HE STOPPED BREATHING. THAT WAS THE WORST HURT I GOT WHEN ANY BODY DIED. HE WAS A FRIEND OF MINE. HE HAD HAD A LOT OF SOLDIERING BEFORE AND FOUGHT rN THE INDIAN WAR. WELL, THE BATTLE OF MARSHALL BROKE THE BACK OF THE TEXAS CAVALRY. WE BEGAN STRAGGLING BACK TOWARD NEW ORLEANS, AND BY THAT TIME THE WAR WAS OVER. THE SOL DIERS BEGAN TO SCATTER. THEY WAS A SORRY LOOKIN' BUNCH OF LOST SHEEP. THEY DID N'T KNOW WHERE TO GO, BUT MOST OF 'EM ENDED UP PRETTY CLOSE TO THE TOWNS THEY ST ARTED FROM. THEY WAS LIKE HOMING PIGEONS, WITH ONLY THE INSTINCT TO GO HOME AND YET,-MOST-OF THnM HADNO HOMES TO GO TO. I NEVER WENT INTO BOOKS. I USED TO HANDLE A BIG DICTIONARY THREE TIMES A D AY, BUT IT WAS ONLY TO PUT IT ON A CHAIR SO MY YOUNG MASTER COULD SIT UP HIGHER AT THE TABLE. I NEVER WENT TO SCHOOL. I LEARNED TO TALK PRETTY GOOD BY ASSOCIA TING WITH MY MASTERS IN THEIR BIG HOUSE. WE LIVED ON A RANCH OF ABOUT 1000 ACRES CLOSE TO THE JACKSON COUNTY LINE IN VICtORIA lOuNTY, ABOUT 125 MILES FROM SAN ANTONIO. JUST BEFORE THE WAR ENDED T HEY SOLD THE RANCH SLAVES AND ALL, AND THE FAMILY, NOT AWAY FIGHTING, MOVED TO GALVESTON. OF COURSE MY FATHER AND ME WASN'T SOLD WITH THE OTHER BLACKS BECAUS E WE WAS AWAY AT WAR. MY MOTHER WAS DROWNED YEARS BEFORE WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY. I ONLY REMEMBE R HER AFTER SHE WAS DEAD. I CAN TAKE YOU TO THE SPOT IN THE RIVER TODAY WHERE S HE WAS DROWNED. SHE DROWNED HERSELF. I NEVER KNEW THE REASON BEHIND IT, BUT IT WAS SAID SHE STARTED TO LOSE HER MIND AND PREFERRED DEATH TO THAT. THE MASTER'S NAME WAS USUALLY ADOPTED BY A SLAVE AFTER HE WAS SET6FREE. ,H IS WAS DONE MORE BECAUSE IT WAS THE LOGICAL THING TO DO AND THE EASIEST WAY TO B E IDENTIFIED THAN IT WAS THROUGH AFFECTION FOR THE MASTER. ALSO, THE GOVERNMENT SEEMED TO BE IN A ALMIGHTY HURRY TO HAVE US GET NAMES. WE HAD TO REGISTER AS S ONEONE, SO WE COULD BE CITIZENS. WELL, I GOT TO THINKING ABOUT ALL US SLAVES TH AT WAS GOING TO TAKE THE NAME FITZPATRICK. I MADE UP MY MIND I'D FIND ME A DIFF ERENT ONE. ONE OF MY GRANDFATHERS IN AFRICA WAS CALLED JEACEO, AND SO I DECIDED TO BE JACKSON.