We’ve all head or experienced the neighbor who borrow a tool then returns broken or in less then original condition. Tools of yore weren’t cheap and although they may have been well made don’t confuse that with hardy.
As a collector and restorer, I always take note of the condition for the obvious reason such as resale, but also I enjoy the story it tells. So in closing, the thought behind this sign may be: think before you borrow, or more simply, keep your hands off my shit. This past year has seen a good deal of change in my life with a move to south Jersey from living just outside NYC.
December however is the poster child for reflection and pointless resolutions, so why not jump on the wagon early with a post from the saw monger. And who better to help me out than Mike Stemple, one of the first and most popular posts I’ve had.
I’m sure many of you will recognize this saw from the triple medallions; it’s a Disston No.
You’ll also note my handle has a bit more meat in areas and the overall size is slightly larger. In regards to the simplified, strengthened later handles, we often associate this as a bad thing, as the outcome is often less interesting; but in real world use, the later models have way less broken horns. So that’s where I’ll end this one for now and just point out if this type of historical look at tools interests you, consider joining one of the may tool clubs in the area. This has been one of the colder winters I can remember here in the northeast but I welcome the warmer weather as I write this.
I did make it out to the midwest tool show, Cabin Fever, in January, and this year it truly was cabin fever as many of the members traveling from Ohio and the midwest were having their own winter wonderland. A good selection of tools was available and I was lucky enough to pick up a nice Atkins 400 and few Disston workhorses. Mike asked for a quick turn on the repair for an up and coming show so the picture I have isn’t the greatest, but I was really happy with the final repair, as was Mike.
I’ve talked a little about this in the past but I wanted to revisit the one part of vintage saws that’s often overlooked – the screws.
There are a number of good sources for patent dates and information, but to simplify things I’ll be using DATAMP or the Directory of American Tool and Machinery Patents.
The Munger Patent: Iff you look at the top of the bolt (male side) you can often see the ring where it attaches to the shaft.
Disston Patent Saw Screws: These can be tricky to tell when on the saw but once removed note the casting marks. The heads of the saw screw and nut are slightly domed and their outer edges beveled so that they flare outward toward the face.
Saw nuts based on this patent were cast, unlike the Munger patent of 1869, which makes them more expensive to produce. So taking these two patents into consideration you can see the groundwork for the final design of the modern saw screw, aka Glover patent screw we all know.
Saw medallions with the Glover patent date have been found on saws from a wide variety of manufacturers and would eventually wind up in the hands of Disston after he dissolved the National Saw Company. So with this in mind, the next time you’re out at the flea market searching for lost treasures, take a second glance at the brass nuts on some of the smaller makers, like the WMC, Peace, and Richardson Brothers, and I’m sure you’ll find some pre-Glover gems.
I’ll start but saying Happy New year to everyone in Sawville and hope Santa treated you well for Christmas.
December and January are always slow on the auctions and boot sales so I was happy to get a call from someone I met earlier this year at the Hearne Hardwoods open house.  He had a number of older saws that he was selling off and at the time we met he was just looking to get rid of any that had been left by the previous pickers who had gone through the collection. After a quick tour of his shop we headed over to his storage area and dug through one of the largest collection of carpentry day or travel type boxes I’ve seen. The first is an unmarked, I would guess English, table saw that looks to have last been filed rip.  At first I was thinking this was possibly the remains of a panel saw that’d just seen a few decades of use, and at some point the lower cheek started to get in the way so the handle was cut to be open.
I’ll finish with this one and as someone who’s done their fair share of repairs I love the use of recycled bits, fit, and finish. In 1760, John Love, a drapery maker, changed directions and started a steel making company in Sheffield. So with that I snapped a few pics and emailed a friend who’s knowledge of UK saws far exceeds mine.
I know the line between tool collector and user is often made of barbed wire, but we can all enjoy geeking-out over the craftsmanship and the history. Whenever I look at a saw from this point in history; late 1700 to early 1800’s, I first think about the maker or company as it’s hard to strip value from any tool, it’s part of what I do. Now I’ll do my best not to ramble about the history but when you think about England and America around the time this was made, well, it’s mind blowing to think this saw is A. So to think this saw was made between the tail end or shortly after the war, then travel to ground zero in the Philadelphia area is just wild. And with that I wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving and offer food for thought on all thing tools. Let me start off by saying thank you to everyone who stopped by my bench at the Hearne Hardwoods open house.
Getting there on Friday prior to the opening also allowed me to set up and walk around a little. For those of you that did stop by and talk, a few of us talked about a hardware store saw for “Chandler & Barber” that I was filing as time permitted. Hardware was their back-bone, but like Sear and Woolworths, they branched out over the years. Before signing off, I also want to thank the many of you that have sent me saws for sharpening. Saws, for the time being, have become a large part of my income and I appreciate the new and repeat business. September starts with my annual trip to the Gauly river.  A few weeks later I’m off to MJD’s auction in NH. It would seem we have the lustrous and larger then life Patrick Leach to thank for an ever earlier and earlier arrival of the buyers and seller.  So with that in mind, I arrived Wednesday and found tables all ready as I back the van into my usual spot.
The pickings in the fall are always a little lighter then spring but I wrangled a few nice saws and picked up a really nice craftsman built saw vise perfect for full size saws.
Friday’s auction, often called “the dealer auction”, wasn’t heavy in saws but did offer a lot of great items that I’m sure have found their way into the hands of many of you. So back out in the parking lot, but not before I grabbed a few napkins (for drive) I walked over to Don Rosebrook’s amazing collection of near mint saws and saw accessories. The business portion of the trip concluded, I checked in my friend Bob Mac and set an ETA for meeting up. Once together we discussed routes and figured out our general daily route then printed up a trip tick of sorts and a tank map. The time we spent in North Conway and around the whites is always majestic, and it was nice taking the road up mount Washington as thus far it’s always been on foot. I hope everyone had a really great and productive summer.  In the northeast it’s been a bit of a wet one, so for my friends in the boating world it’s been a good one for sure. Early in the summer I was in New Hampshire for a repeat trip to see a good friend and fellow seller. What first struck me was the medallion in the handle was reversed; something I guess as a left handed sawyer I just naturally noted.
For those of you in the Philadelphia area, Hearne Hardwoods is having an open house again this year. My friend Mark of Foley Filer and past post emailed me a great link to some vintage black and white films taken of the Disston plate. In other news I’ve recently moved the shop back to South Jersey and doing my best to change over any paperwork or websites to my new mailing address. In addition my turn-around should be a little quicker as I’m a fulltime saw mechanic, while seeking local employment, happily now back in the Philly area. Professional quality blades with 7mm Tungsten Carbide Tipped teeth to ensure a long working life and accuracy of cut.
The LXP vari-tooth design has a high positive rake angle and deep gullets for increased material penetration and chip-carrying capacity compared to the standard tooth design.
It was tacked inside one of his father’s tool chests and through the miracle of modern technology I bring it to your attention.
I’m going to take a leap here and say that most tool collectors and craftsmen don’t borrow; rather they save up and collect over time the tools that are needed.
I’ve read different statistics on carpentry tool pricing and some higher end pieces, like a plow plane with a full set of blades, could be upwards of a month’s wages.
Things like early owners’ marks are well placed and stamped with care by the first owners to the later hastily initials carved like a 10 year old. I hope it makes you think a little harder about the relationship between humans and their tools and how their value affects the outcome of them.


He also enjoys among other things sending me hopeless saw handles that I pull my hair repairing. 99 was produced from 1865-1918 and, like the evolution of many things, I’d guess it started life as an offshoot of the popular but simpler No.
99’s that Disston produced in numbers easily get the bling award with triple medallions and aforementioned higher end spring steel. 99 changed over the years and the disstonianinstitute does have a few examples of early and late but as luck would have it, these two are much closer in years and this provides some good info.
Note the lower clip on Mike’s and it has cracks; it’s not bad but you can see how delicate the area is. The job searching is slow going and working full time in the shop doesn’t leave as much time at the end of the day for collecting my thoughts. The weather is always an issue for this show but it did cooperate with cold temps while the snow held off till later in the day. I’ll do my best not to plagiarize the hell out of them, but just understand that this is not new research or ideas that I’m taking credit for. A complete list of the 9 saw patents can be found here but I’m just going to touch on a few of the more notable.
Construction differs in the use of a perforated disk that’s secured to the shank around the edge of the head and looks similar to the later Glover style screws at first glance. Additionally, the screw is received by a threaded socket in the tubular shape (female side of the saw screw).
The Glover patent screw is an improved Munger design, just making the male side of the screw out of a single piece of metal like the Disston patent, but turning it from a single piece, as well increasing size and a few other improvements. The winter months in the world of tools slow down but I’ve been lucky enough to have a few saws streaming through the shop for sharpening and restoration so my hands haven’t been too idle. Rick explained that for years he’d hit the Golden Nugget flea market and bought them when the prices were just a few dollars. As I had figured, most were in the trash and parts piles but Rick had some really nice wall hangers for the few of us that enjoy the history and look regardless of the function. Note to self, I need to find a local scrap yard as my collection of bent plates must be near 100 pounds at this point. However, as I now write this and look at the pictures, I still feel the plate has been cut down but the handle was mostly likely always open. It’s amazing the info one can find online and a quick Google book search found me this ad from the 1880’s, Humphrey, Dodge & Smith Jobbers and retailers in hardware. Add to that the economy plus balancing the saw business and well my time has been in short supply. I don’t normally take in UK saws as I deal more with users and I already have more then I can currently work through. This was in large part due to the rapidly growing production of metal production due to the abundance of raw materials. In 1814, with the firm now run by Alexander Spear’s nephew, John Spear, an apprentice named Sam Jackson was added. But when I stop, and realize most saws were NOT made by the stamps namesake but rather nameless craftsmen, I can better focus on the details. In 1774 the colony had established there own governmental institution but still recognized the British Crown and empire.
We know Love & Spears were in business on or before 1787 in England, while here in the US The battle of Monmouth was fought on June 28, 1778, a turning point for George Washington after loosing his foothold on Philly. This was my second year going and I tried to be a little better prepared and brought tools to sell as well as a kit for those of you with questions about filing.
I also expanded my time and went both Friday and Saturday after talking with Mario and Allen of Philadelphia Furniture Workshop who felt Friday was the busier day. For those of you outside the area or just haven’t had the time to visit Hearne, driving up it looks like most lumber yards with a large pole building but after a short walk around and side said building you quickly realize the amount and selection of flitch & log sets they have.
For those of you who follow me in ebay, you will have noticed I’ve switched over most of my saws to buy it now. But here in the northeast, September treats us to many warm days and cool nights perfect out door activities and my favorite time of the year. I have a little more time on my hands, so after the show I met up with a friend and we spent a week on the motorbikes camping and riding through RI, MASS and NH.
I’m, however, more of a lot lizard and enjoy trolling the yard, digging and conversing with others. It’s a real treat just seeing so many pristine examples of saws Don has collected over the last 10+ years. Mostly straight warranted superior saws that would make good users that I had picked up the year before in box lots. Having spent a few days in the van and now switching gears to the bike required gathering my previously gathered, but yet to be packed clothing and gear for the next week, then fitting into and on the bike. The k bike also enjoyed a few roads less traveled and handled the 15 or so miles of dirt as if it were a dual sports. Last weekend was the open house at Hearne Hardwoods and I want to thank everyone who stopped by and double to those that bought a saw or other item. Now I should point out, this being a well-used example, it’s quite possibly something a previous owner did; regardless, I filed it away under “that’s cool”.
Flint and a really cool hardware store saw made for Clapp & Treat Hardware and later Outfitters.
The quality is quite good and it’s cool to see how some of the plates were toothed and the handles were carved and shaped.
Each blade has laser cut expansion slots to improve their performance by reducing heat build up. The original may have been printed at the turn of the century but the idea remains a hard truth even today. Something like a handsaw could be a few days’ to a week’s wages and to kink or bend a plate doesn’t take much effort. I’m sure it’s something as collectors we understand better than most and the reason we enjoy collecting a tool for every job! The lone handle is mine and also early, but made after his first son joined the company as noted. The top and bottom warranted superior medallions were throwback designs featuring earlier style eagles and the middle was the current Disston medallion. As pointed out above, the first thing you note is the differences in the lower part of the handle, the low ogee curve. With the evolution of saws, handle refinements in general were simplified and areas that cracked were strengthened.
On the upside, I’ve enjoyed some projects like adding cruise control and a spline lube to my K75 motorcycle. Mike had just picked up a really rare and early Disston backsaw that needed some handle attention.  I don’t often get a picture of me with others so I made sure to get one with the boys, Mike and David. That’s fine for conversational talk but when you get a little more technical, the time right around the end of the split nut, and what we currently find on saws, based off the Glover patent and later, commonly called a Chicago screw by some, was very active. Looking closer you’ll note the threaded shafts are thinner, and looking at the screw top you’ll see the round center of shaft where it was connected. Note the ridge on the lower section of bolt (male side) the ridges were used to hold it when threading and also helped prevent them from spinning.
I knew the seller that had gone through the collection so at best I figured I’d find some interesting wall hangers and saws for parts. Rick was a retired carpenter but also did some turning on the side and in the mix was a bowel of various saw screws and hardware that was fun to go through. As predicted, I did find a few interesting wall hangers for the shop and I’ll share a few of them. The old English beech handle with split nuts remains tight and I would guess at some point as the saw grew shorter a nib was added, then broken off. This one however looks to be beech or at least not a fruit wood, but it’s been heavily coated with finish so it’s a little hard to tell. Look at the saw screws that are a distinctive dome style that with repeated use have sunken into the apple wood handle.  It’s interesting to note that most saws filed this deep into the plate would exhibit a shaved cheek from the handle hitting the wood with each stroke or a broken lower ogee.
For the most part I think the early ones had inferior steel to the US counterparts but handles, fit, and finish are always quite nice. The owner, however, was looking for a 16” user and I figured it was an early brass backed saw.
Love was joined by Alexander Spear, a wealthy merchant from Wakefield (local to the area) and the newly formed firm was named Spear & Love.
Jackson proved a capable assistant and in 1830 the company was renamed Spear & Jackson. Details like the ultra fine lower ogee that starts with a small lamb’s tongue and terminates at the London style handle with a clip.


The British responded by sending combat troops and well, in short, we told king George III to go piss off and the American Revolutionary War AKA American War of Independence ensued between1775–1783. Fletcher Barber owned and operated the hardware company located at 122-124 Summer Street in Boston during the mid-1800’s through the 1920s.
I’ve done this for a few reasons, the main one being it’s just the fairest way to do business for both me and the future owner. Those of you that know me, keeping my mouth shut while sitting through an auction is torturous. This year he brought some interesting sales displays, one being a large Disston sign in the shape of a D8 rip saw. Changing gears and selling was fun and I enjoyed talking and meeting locals who came Saturday to walk around the parking lot.
This being the second time in the last few months we’ve bike camped, we both have our preferred kit.
I won’t bore you with the finer details of the day to day and just say it was great time and the weather was better then I had ever hoped.
Recently I’ve been on a Joseph Flint kick after first picking up a well loved example in upstate New York last year.
Since then I’ve been on the hunt, and although I’ve bought a few other examples including a Shurly Dietrich which he was involved in, none have had a reversed saw screw medallion. This year I’ll be there both days, so please stop by and say, “Hi.” Like last year I’ll have my workmate and vise and will be happy to answer any questions.
In looking over some older advertisements from the mid-1800’s I found references to a “Jobber”, which I rather liked and felt fit me as I currently meet both definitions. It was previously owned by Carl Bilderback who’s better known for his Panther head repairs, as well as all things Atkins. Looking at them both, you can see the earlier one has the single outline of the keystone while the later has the double.
The Ohio Tool Collectors may be smaller in members, but for lovers of all things saws there is a never ending supply of new articles on the topic. Hand saws were being produced in high numbers and all the makers were looking for a better way to hold the handles to the plate. This patent is marked on several manufacturers; I mostly find them on Peace, Richardson, and WMC. The large surface of Glover’s medallion, in conjunction with the squared shoulder where it is seated into the handle, allowed it to resist turning. Also, though not specified in the patent, the shafts of Glover’s saw nuts were of stouter construction. I’m always in search of spare Munger patent screws as many of the early Peace and WMC saws used them, and due to the design they don’t take excessive torque well.
The beak and top hook of the handle have that classic FAT yet shapely look like a plump woman in a Renaissance painting.
And most importantly, I’m still happy and enjoy the little wonders I find when working with old tools. Yes, I’ve seen more ornate versions of both, but in many ways, it speaks to balance of design. The manufacturing of these saws would have been contracted by one of the larger saw manufacturers and looking the saw over I would say Disston or C.E. I’m am an avid camper so for those interested would happy recommend any of the sites we camped at if you’re traveling in those areas.  By far the two nicest were also close to each other. The blade has a vari-raker tooth set, which alternates between left-leaning, right-leaning, and unset teeth. I’ve seen some examples at the Mid-West shows and I’m told as a whole it’s quite impressive. Although you can easily see a few differences between the two handles, the most noticeable is the lower ogee clip area where the tag is. Looking at the center keystone medallion and using both disstonianinstitute and past experience, this iteration of the style falls around 1870-72 but the other two look earlier to me and are often found on late 1860’s saws.
This is in large part due to the editor and his house of saws that will soon have this 99 in it. The overall purpose of this patent is to allow the handle and the saw nuts and screws to be finished and polished prior to assembly. However, what kept this one from going under the knife and off to the scrap yard was the repair. We often hear the cost of these saws could cost the original owner a week of wages, so it’s important that form follows function. In the past, most of my time sight seeing and camping in NH has been around the Whites, but the lakes and surrounding area of Winnipesaukee were spectacular. This band saw blade has a variable pitch and set sequence to reduce noise levels and vibrations, and to remove chips efficiently. It’s possible these differences were creative distinctions or designed model changes, but I’m getting ahead of myself. We know manufacturers often find uses for older parts and this might have been done to use up older label screws on his secondary lines. As someone who’s made a few handles and repaired a few more knows, the guys making these had some mad skills, as the kids say. Other differences can be found but I’d say mine is closer to that overlap and about 5-7 years apart. Remember that split nuts would have been sanded with the handle and installed before finishing the wood. Now that pile was on a tarp in my wagon and as promised I took all of them, the good and the bad. The No 9’s are also an interesting model in that the handles changed shapes and some examples look more like the No 7, while others have the double lobes of the later No 12. For those of you looking for the best deal I normally sell the same saws on my personal site at a slightly lower then ebay price. I finished packing up my things in the AM and made plans to travel back towards Boston to meet up with a friend and now customer Freddy Roman. Pawtuckaway and Bear Brook State Parks both offered some of the best views and cleanest campgrounds I’ve been at in recent memory. Band saw blades are long, continuous bands of metal that loop around the wheels of band saws and can make straight or curved cuts in metal, wood, stone, plastic, and other materials. The beveled underside of the edges formed their own seats in slightly undersized shallow holes in the handle.
I’m sure this being off peak times played a big part, but just the same, if you’re in the area they are worth checking out. When purchasing band saw blades, consider the application, as this will affect the tooth rake, tooth se t, pitch, and size of the blade. I see owners’ marks like the growth rings in a tree; they color and shape the final product like a piece of birdseye maple and without them you’re left with a sheet of farm raised yellow pine. It used “Extra Refined London Spring Steel” which Disston made sure to point out in printed catalogs and advertising, emphasizing that it was hand selected and above all others!
I also found a small secondary one closer to the handle of which “Warranted” is about all I can make out. Also note the fit of the screw heads; this was done with care by someone who felt if they were going to take the time, regardless of the job, it would be done right.
Band saw blades are available with a positive rake angle or a straight (also called zero) rake angle, and with a raker, wavy, or alternate tooth set. So if you tend to sand handles smooth and refinished I’d urge you to reconsider this heavy-handed reaction to the saw’s character. Disston was nothing if not a good promoter; but joking aside, it’s easy to see the detail and care in both handles. The transition in particular from the chamfer into the stop is just so simple and perfect with that micro transition as it terminates into the hook.
Pitch (the number of teeth per inch or per 25.4 mm) affects the type of finish and may be constant or variable. The minute I got back onto the expressway I smacked my head.  Regardless, check out his site. Band saw blades are available in different lengths and widths to fit the requirements of specific band saws. Freddy had contacted me about buying a rip saw plus having me look over and sharpen a few of his saws.



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