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Gorilla has just completed all audio post production for Bord Bia’s newly launched organic gardens DVD for primary schools across Ireland. The DVD is an educational package that shows how pupils and teachers alike can convert their school grounds into organic gardens to grow their own vegetables!
Realise that synthetic fertilisers and pesticides are harmful and should be avoided if possible.
Teachers Notes: Organic horticulture is the science and art of growing fruits, vegetables, flowers, or ornamental plants by following the essential principles of organic agriculture in soil building and conservation, pest management, weed, and disease control, and heritage species preservation. It is a form of agriculture which excludes the use of synthetic fertilisers, pesticides, plant growth regulators, and genetically modified organisms.
Bord Bia have just changed all their organic food logos on their website to a leaf, gone are the “organic : good for nature, good for you” logos…….maybe you could ask why the change?
But as can be seen from the first page of Bord Bia’s schools education programme [above] it still exists. I don’t hold issue with anyone who goes green or encourages others to do so, especially at such a young age. To get a gist of what people believe organic is, I asked the following question[s] on twitter this evening: what do you believe organic means? Grown sustainable without pesticides or herbicides in soil which is free of both substances at least for 8 years. I prioritise fresh produce, which more often than not means local as the time betw farm & shop is shorter, but believe organic is best.
To that I note these forms where one can apply to be able use certain chemicals – yet still be labelled organic. When you see the IOFGA logo on organic food you can guarantee that this product has been inspected and approved to meet the organic standards. It seems there is vagueness in what organic actually is [exactly] and more-so to that people’s understanding of. Reminds me, to an extent, of the comments over on Tom Doorleys blog and as Tom summised in closing – it is about informed decision making. As regards the imported organic versus local food, there’s the bones of a good discussion there. To your 3rd paragraph, its not an organic versus imported foods discussion as such I was hoping for.
I think you might be attempting a FF style spin there with your figures… It is irrelevant what you “believe”.
Again, it would be good that the taxpayer know the price for the development of a misleading marketing slogan?
And when you consider all the artificial pesticides that the potato growers use, on top of the artificial fertilizers, you can begin to see the virtues of organic potatoes. Thanks for commenting and a fair point, but to be honest I wouldn’t think so regarding credibility.
I don’t either know of any farmer [personally] who uses fertiliser on theirs, in what may be considered commercial. Re the virtues of non organic – Irish people have been eating them [non-organic] for centuries.
But then Bord Bia, represent and work with all [most] growers in this country and I’m sure they could clarify this too.
I’m sure you are also aware that one can apply for use of chemicals in organic farming, yet still be labelled organic ? I hope DAFF and Bord Bia will be including the following in their organic promotion material or their schools program.
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HiPP Organic Good night milk is from a range of milk formulas made by HiPP - there are only 2 varieties of Good Night milk and after receiving a sample through the post this was the one we decided to try. My daughter has never been a great sleeper and although I had hoped she would be sleeping through by 6 months, the reality was that she was still waking for milk once or twice a night.I had seen an advert in a magazine for Goodnight Milk, and as I was desperate for a good nights sleep for both of us I thought I would give it a go. The problem is the variance in beliefs of what organic actually is, the fact that legislation makes ordinary foods extremely safe to eat and the fact one can actually use chemicals and non-organic seed, yet still be labelled organic. The DVD also explains some of the main benefits of eating organic food over processed food and moreover provides excellent opportunities for pupils to bring their learning outside of the classroom! Organic gardeners rely on crop rotation, green manure, crop residue and compost to maintain soil productivity and control pests. It is an ideal way to teach children to respect the environment and introduce them and their families to healthy eating. The derogations that can be applied for can include the use of non-organic seed and copper sulphate [for example]. It is produced according to organic farming principles which are committed to working in harmony with nature rather than against nature. Organic farming in Ireland is the one system of farming which is fully certified and regulated and we in IOFGA are proud to see so many high quality products carry our logo.
The argument as to whether it’s better to balance the books [so to speak] is [pardon the pun] simply more food for thought. The EU leaf is a new branding slogan that I believe looks quite well, and hopefully will assist in marketing organics internationally. In your role as a representative of the people of Ireland, you do not feel you should refer to this as still misleading ? Might I ask whether the organic schools programme is actually organic or is it more a schools gardening programme ? It’s more, that I am aware, maybe a case of chemical usage in the case of potential blight or scare. It started well with baby having to suck harder, which itself resulted in him being out for the count by the time he was finished.
My daughter is generally a good sleeper, but about 3 months ago she would wake crying in the night. The programme was shot over a 2-year period and includes 3 case studies in Dublin, Kildare and Ardee in Co Louth. Organic farming works within the natural confines of the farming eco-system to provide you with great tasting food!
What it goes to show is that sustainability has many aspects ranging from social to economic to environmental sustainability. Would be nice if you could let us all know what these figures are if you are going to dispute the words of a journalist and your own public servant (Lorcan Bourke from Bord Bia). That said I’m sure the IFA, IPM, Dublin Meath Growers or Bord Bia could correct me on this.
It comes in a large(which is recyclable) with a plastic lid, and inside the lid is a ring pull top.
This is a programme that will include my child and yours and I personally am not sure I wish for her to be thought gardening under an organic label based on what I have unearthed.
Bord Bia’s annual budget for marketing & promoting organics varies from year to year depending on the number of activities planned.
She is waking less, and it does keep her asleep till around 7am now, rather than 6am.Its a shame you cannot get the goodnight food jars and pots here in the UK, as they also work, combined with the milk, its a great combination. The tin tells me that the product is a specially formulated bedtime milk, gluten free and easy to suggest.Inside is a creamy coloured powder which looks alot like milkpowder.
There is also a point where from a marketing perspective that organic labelling does sell [see above compost image].

For example, in 2009, these events included National Organic Week, National Organic Awards, an organic gardening schools programme & a stand at the international organic trade fair Biofach. Hipp Organic Good Night Milk (hereafter known as Milk lol) is aimed at children aged from 6 months to 3 years and can be incorporated into your bedtime routine.
It also has a scoop in there to measure out the correct amount of powder when making up your babies feed. Funding provided by DAFF for those initiatives in 2009 amounted to €313,000, a figure typical of the ongoing annual spend rather than the €1 million referred to. It's a thick creamy organic milk product with cereals such as rice and buckwheat in it to thicken it up with the aim of filling baby up and helping them feel more satisfied for longer. The instructions on the tin tell me to boil some water, leave it to cool for 30 minutes then to add one scoop for every fluid ounce of water. The question I guess still remains of what methodology is better and also from an educational point the information that is being thought. The ingredients are Organic skimmed milk, organic vegetable oils (palm, rapeseed, sunflower oils), organic corn starch, organic lactose, organic partially demineralised whey powder**, organic rice flakes, organic buckwheat flakes, emulsifier (soya lecithin), calcium carbonate, vitamin C, potassium chloride, L-tryptophan, iron diphosphate, vitamin E, niacin, zinc oxide, pantothenic acid, copper sulphate, vitamin A, thiamin (vitamin B1), vitamin B6, zinc sulphate, riboflavin (vitamin B2), potassium iodate, manganese sulphate, folic acid, vitamin K, sodium selenate, biotin, vitamin D, vitamin B12.
Its recommended that you add all the powder to two thirds of the water, mixing it thoroughly and then adding the rest of the water.
After a twisty day, the next night it was the same nightmare again after giving the good night milk, and again a little hard musket ball poo in the morning, this time followed an hour later by the worst smelling diarrhea. This all seems a little complicated, but I duly follow the instructions and I am left with a bottle filled with milk that looks alot creamier than other powdered baby milks. Returned baby to his normal Cow & Gate 2 milk and after a couple of days to get everything out of his sytem there were no more of these problems. This milk is made up like most other formula milks, boil kettle and leave to cool slightly. It reminded me alot like ovaltineThe tin does tell you to use a fast flow teat as the product is a bit thicker than usual. The milk tastes very metallic and it is possible that the high iron content does not agree with my baby's tummy. However, rather than adding the formula to the water in the bottle you are supposed to add half the water, then the powder and then the rest of the water but I tend to just add powder to all the water and it still mixes OK.You can instantly tell that its a creamy milk just by looking at it although from my point of view it doesn't taste particularly great but then neither does forumla! We also had upset tummies when we tried the Cow & Gate 3 milk which has a higher iron content. The tin recommends use of a fast flow teat which we use anyway as J suffers from reflux and the Gavsicon thickens his milk. However my daughter still seemed to be having real problems getting the milk out, and despite the fact I shook the bottle, and mixed it with a fork like the tin recommends, there was still lumps in it, and a residue at the bottom of the bottle. Even with a fast flow teat, the milk isn't very fast flowing so I have had to slit his teats with a knife so that it flows better for him. I'm not sure whether it works at filling babies up at night because J hasn't had a night feed since he was 16 weeks old, some mornings he will happily go until 9am before he wants his breakfast, other mornings he wants it at 7am.The directions state to give babies under 1 a 6oz bottle and babies over 1 a 7oz bottle. Jack would struggle to drink 5oz of this milk but we ran out yesterday and he has drank 2 7ozs bottles yesterday and today and not been any hungrier in the mornings.
I was awoken about 2.30 by my daughter screaming and crying, pulling her knees up like she had a bad tummy. I dont know if my daughter had an allergy to one of the ingredients, but I cant recommend it and wont be using it again.The listed ingredients are Organic skimmed milk, organic vegetable oils (palm, rapeseed, sunflower oils), organic corn starch, organic lactose, organic partially demineralised whey powder**, organic rice flakes, organic buckwheat flakes, emulsifier (soya lecithin), calcium carbonate, vitamin C, potassium chloride, L-tryptophan, iron diphosphate, vitamin E, niacin, zinc oxide, pantothenic acid, copper sulphate, vitamin A, thiamin (vitamin B1), vitamin B6, zinc sulphate, riboflavin (vitamin B2), potassium iodate, manganese sulphate, folic acid, vitamin K, sodium selenate, biotin, vitamin D, vitamin B12.

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