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Following safety improvements Renault proposed that Global NCAP test an updated evolution of the Kwid in production from early April 2016. The new Kwid without an airbag scored zero stars in the adult occupant protection and two stars in child occupant protection. Renault has confirmed that they will implement further improvements to the KWID and Global NCAP will test these new evolutions in forthcoming crash tests. As a result of Global NCAP?s SaferCarsforIndia crash testing Renault has sought to improve the safety performance of the Kwid. Four versions of the Kwid have been produced with different safety features, with the fourth only recently released and yet to be tested by Global NCAP. Despite the safety improvements Renault has sought to introduce all of the versions tested to date have been rated as zero star for adult protection. Indeed so - with 'subtle safety enhancement revisions' for the South American market - as indicated in the Latin NCAP crash test video.
How much is a Mexican life worth to car manufacturers such as Nissan, General Motors and Volkswagen? I mean its almost the same as our sentra built in rosslyn, and they well known for being reliable. Latin NCAP said the model is sold in parts of Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Central and South America. View My Garage ARTICLE: Find your car's date of manufacture (VIN) How do you know that your dealer isn't selling you a 6 month old car, under the guise of a new one? Knowing when your car was manufactured is critical; after all, when you have paid good money for a brand new car, shouldn't you be getting just that? Additionally, you can find a separate placard near the front left door, right bottom (near seat) that has 2 characters representing MONTH and YEAR. Full credit goes to fellow members Ghostrider, Torquedo, keyur and Poitive for the findings. Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR The VIN code for mahindra vehicles consists of 17 digits, which is divided mainly into 3 sections. Seems the guy doing test drive was really on the limits and the light steering didnt help matters either, the ABS must have been working, couldnt keep the steering straight and bang.
Originally Posted by mrohit17 We looked at the highway and we could clearly see the tyre marks leading from right side lane of the road towards the left side in a soft curve and directly leading to the impact location.
Originally Posted by Samurai If the ABS was working, then swerving could be blamed only on the driver. Originally Posted by coolboy007 Seems the guy doing test drive was really on the limits I would say he was off the limits.
ESP is one gizmo that keeps the rubber on the ground, but only the Polo TSI comes with that today. Yes, higher GC does mean that the center of gravity is relatively poor, but that's no excuse for rolling a car over.
I've driven the EcoSport and let me assure you that it feels very stable despite the fact that it sits higher off the ground. If a driver goes loses control and the car veers towards a divider, no amount of safety tech will prevent an accident.
View My Garage Re: Ford EcoSport : Official Review Short and crisp review with nice photography too! Originally Posted by suhaas307 I know people who have driven lakhs of kilometers over the best and worst roads and through treacherous weather conditions. And car companies should design a car keeping it in mind idiots get a driving license as well. Originally Posted by Vid6639 Look at the Mercedes S class which has more safety features than you can ever imagine. Originally Posted by Vid6639 Volvo has roll over stability control, which is supposed to prevent a rollover. Not every one needs the ground clearance but such cars are a hit in Indian markets, the road conditions are deteriorating, come monsoons and our roads are flooded with water.
What i want to say that despite being a car with a high 200mm ground clearance, its handling is pretty sorted.
Mahindra Verito Vibe : Official Review The Mahindra Verito Vibe has been launched in India at a price of between Rs. The following 21 BHPians Thank parrys for this useful post: amitwlele, amolbh, anilkumar, CARDEEP, Desmosedici, directinjection, dr. After the JV ended, the Logan was re-branded as a 100% Mahindra product and called the Verito. One glance at the Vibe and you can notice that the rear end styling is out of sync with the Verito's boxy design language, which has been almost the same from the Logan days.
Looking at the way the market is shaping up currently, Mahindra has decided not to offer the Verito Vibe in the petrol avatar. Identical design till the C-pillar, abruptly ending beyond that to give it a hatchback like look.
When we thought nothing could have been shorter than the Dzire's boot, Mahindra has surprised us with this one. Note how the tail lamps cover the short distance that the boot protrudes out, creating the hatchback illusion. Average sized ORVMs share the same round shaped mount on the front door as seen on the Logan, however, the black applique around it saves the day. Rear window goes down only 60%, the black applique continues through as a blacked-out B-pillar. A deterrent to Verito sales; strong taxi segment penetration is a turn off for the personal buyers. The following 18 BHPians Thank parrys for this useful post: anilkumar, ashpalio, Batfreak, Desmosedici, dr. The instrument cluster has crisply visible large dials for the speedometer & tachometer.
On the safety front, the Vibe is equipped with a driver's side airbag, anti-lock braking (ABS) and electronic brake-force distribution (EBD). You may notice a small elevated dead-pedal at the left, but it is difficult for your foot to reach that spot because of how close the clutch pedal is to the centre column. Small cubby hole under the armrest to store oddities & a cup holder at the end for the rear passengers.
The narrow slot below the center console and above the front cup holders can be used to store the likes of a pen, keys etc. Placing bottles in that flat storage spot on the door pad is going to be difficult without deforming the bottle. Something unique in the footwell; the floor near the pedals steps upwards just at the point where your foot would be when you have the clutch fully pressed. Door pads protrude to eat up some amount of the bench space, yet there's decent room for 3 at the back.
A very sturdy cover on the rear speakers, they won't get damaged while loading or unloading cargo. Front passenger seat-back has a large pocket, inside which is a smaller pocket to hold your mobile in place! The following 25 BHPians Thank parrys for this useful post: amitpunjani, anilkumar, ani_meher, ashpalio, Batfreak, cs_rajesh, Desmosedici, devilwearsprada, dr. Re: Peugeot 404 Coupe and Cabriolet Registry Thanks but yes, that black car is a Fiat 1600. Re: Peugeot 404 Coupe and Cabriolet Registry My very helpful contact in France, Herve, has found another!
The other three were found and photographed by my super-helper Herve C in Lyon France: 4599176, 11378 Coupe Injection 1966, Gris Graphite 1055, Grey Cloth Seats, This car was just sold for around 7500 Euros May2015, and it will be moving to the Paris region for its restoration from the Isere part of the French Alps, ILE DE FRANCE FRANCE 6802646, Carrosserie 16048, Cabriolet Injection 1968, Bleu Clair Metallise 1158, Black Leather 2000, Hard top, this car will be restored after cannibalising parts from Coupe No. Originally Posted by karlosdeville For you Mike, another 404 in a movie in India, Pushpak from the 1980s Attachment 1327033 That car looks so incredibly beautiful from the rear view in the movie Pushpaka Vimana. Surprising that the designers then didn't feel the need to include a rear view mirror on the right door.
Re: Peugeot 404 Coupe and Cabriolet Registry If you have any idea how the owner of this car could be contacted, I would be delighted to know! Since my last posting, four more 404C models have been identified for the Registry, but I am not able to use remotely hosted photos so I can't post them here. Re: Peugeot 404 Coupe and Cabriolet Registry The total is up to 2007 404 Coupe and Cabriolet models.


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All of them are Hyundai i20 Diesel Asta cars, and I see (from the letter E in position 10) that these are all 2014 cars. Do try the section called Parts Catalog - it's available on the main page as one of the tabs at the left. View My Garage Re: ARTICLE: Find your car's date of manufacture (VIN) Not sure if already asked and in all probability a stupid question, but do bikes also have VIN numbers ? A typical Ford Vehicle VIN contains 17 Characters starting from MAJ on which 11th and 12th characters represents YEAR and MONTH respectively. I have got this VIN no allocated to me; the SP hasnt seen the documents etc as the car is physically in another location. I really appreciate the efforts you put in decoding the VIN of the vehicle explaining in detail the way to decode the VIN characters.
Typical CHEVROLET Car VIN has 17 Characters starting with MA6 in which 9th and 10th characters represents MONTH and YEAR respectively. This is printed on the passenger compartment floor bed under the front left seat and carries: Car Model and Chassis No. It scored zero stars in adult occupant protection and two stars in child occupant protection. The structure did not collapse however it was rated as unstable and that it could not withstand further loadings.
This version also scored zero stars in the adult occupant protection and two stars in child occupant protection. Automotive manufactures around the world use a Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that can be decoded to reveal the Month & Year of production. I myself own a Linea which has the segment best steering and a Vento which has a light steering, the Ecosport had the most light steering but it wasnt vague like the fluidic Verna.
Mind you these marks looked like hard braking marks and not skid marks so I am pretty sure the ABS was working here.
It is not big as an SUV, It is not as stable as a Sedan, It is not as affordable as a hatch. If you go too fast and yank the wheel under braking and godforbid, you hit the edge of a pavement or a stone, you've had it. But a very nicely done video of Ecosport from Powerdrift I think the EcoSport has coaxial speakers (tweeters mounted on the speakers itself) like it is in the Figo. Yes, any car with a high GC like Scorpio, Ecosport, Duster, Fortuner may have a much higher chance of getting into a nervous situation than a stable hatchback or sedan but that is a given with these high gc cars, they need to be driven accordingly. Form-wise, the Vibe is identical to the Verito sedan till the C-pillar, and beyond that, well there is nothing significant left to go beyond - the car is just chopped off at the C-pillar section. The Vibe is missing the side body molding, and the chrome grill at the front has been replaced with a matte black piece instead.
Right between them you will find a digital meter (MID) which provides quite some information to the driver. The seats are grey with a pista-coloured centre section, embellished with green and yellow stitching.
Air-con controls are placed super low behind a tall gear stick; one will actually have to take their eyes off the road to use these controls when the car is slotted in 1st, 3rd or 5th gear. Wiper stalk has been marked with only two speeds, but there's actually three (the 1st one being intermittent).
This 4 cylinder 8 valve engine can be seen in several other cars in the market like the Renault Duster, Nissan Sunny, Nissan Micra, Renault Fluence etc. You need a moderate amount of effort to disengage it and you won't feel weak in the knees once back from a heavy traffic session. 6802163, ISERE FRANCE 6802163, Carrosserie 15363, Coupe Injection 1968, Bleu Clair Metallise 1158, Black Vinyl, This car still exists in May 2015 but it will be an organ and body part donor for Cabriolet No. GM unwilling to let Peugeot use its plants GTO The Indian Car Scene 45 6th October 2015 18:59 TeamBHP F1 Race Visitor's Registry. The instructions say that the 19th character has the month of manufacture, but the VIN does not have 19 characters! When you click on the link, it opens a new tab in your browser where you can get all the details. I asked him to confirm the date of manufacture and he was surprised that I knew it before him. Your recent initiative of showing where to locate the VIN on different cars through photographs is worth admiring, please keep up the good work. As pointed out by Wildon, this sticker can be removed and alternate locations need to be highlighted. The collapse of the structure in the passenger compartment and the lack of airbags explained the poor result. It was possible to see the structural reinforcements implemented in this version of the Kwid but when Global NCAP checked the left (passenger) side, there were no reinforcements. The structure was the same as the new KWID without airbags but a high compression in the dummy chest area explains the low score.
That’s the cost of fitting out a car with basic but lifesaving safety features, features that are included as standard in the United States and emerging markets such Brazil and India.
Each car has a unique VIN that is usually stamped somewhere within the engine bay, or around the passenger compartment. It is a sorry state of affair that we Indians embrace Ecosport with open arms while we renounce the much more capable and complete car YETI. But there are cases with Scorpio,Captiva, Omni (Seen rolling over complete 360° in front of me) and now Ecosport. Eventually though, the fleet market looked past the boxy exteriors and recognized how much it had to offer for their purpose. Stand at a point looking squarely at the rear end of the Vibe and you would think it's a hatchback.
The Verito & Vibe have also got rid of the unconventional dual-pivoted wiper arms from the Logan days and moved onto more standard looking wipers. For such an old platform, one would expect a more aggressively priced product, but then, M&M have royalties to pay. What's bad about this - again, the fleet market won't be happy because they will not be able to create their easy break-even points by using a petrol + CNG fuel combination.
The dashboard still resembles the Logan from 2007, though there are little cosmetic additions to make it look more with the times.
Namely: Odometer, a single trip-meter, how many litres of fuel consumed since start-up, average kmpl, average speed, kilometers traveled since start-up, DTE, and the time.
This colour combination is something most people would want to cover as soon as they take delivery of the car.
The central locking button is not next to the power window controls, and the power window controls themselves are placed a little too far back, with the door opening lever placed ahead of the protruding power window housing. However, the motor on the Vibe is a little de-tuned as compared to the other cars powered by the same engine. Even the gear stick stays firm and relatively steady on cranking, despite it being a typical tall Mahindra lever. But, when you accelerate, there is a turbo sound audible to the driver, even with the windows rolled up. We drove over a broken stretch of tarmac and there was absolutely no suspension thudding audible inside the cabin.
In times where manufacturers are providing super light steering wheels, the unit on the Vibe is fairly heavy. Make a correction, especially at high speeds and the body will gently roll before the car actually begins to change directions.
To locate it, simply open the boot and lift the carpet and boot shelf to uncover the spare wheel well. The design if not totally uninspiring, is definitely out of the 90's more than today's time. The Vibe looks under-powered when compared to its direct competitors (barring the Toyota Etios).
Only time will tell what the Vibe will do for the Mahindra stable after entering this huge volume segment. With the huge windows and light beige interior theme, the Vibe's cabin feels extremely airy and open.


The steering too does not get any reach or rake adjustment, and the instrument cluster seems to be keen to face the gods, rather than the driver.
It's not loud enough to be an irritant, but if you're listening for it there's no way you'll miss it. Macpherson-type with wishbone link at the front and rear H-Section torsion beam with 'programmed deflection-coil spring' at the back do a great job of keeping the car stable even when you approach these bad patches at high speeds.
It is simply impractical in bumper-to-bumper traffic and you cannot park the car with ease using just one hand.
Please click here (Uploading photographs directly to Team-BHP) to view our simple help article on uploading pictures. Let me know if my decoding is incorrect or if any additional information can be decoded from this number. I constantly drive at 120 kmph in the salem highway and many a times i have done hard braking with just one hand on the steering. Yes it can not handle exactly as a Swift or Polo - those are low slung hatchbacks and their dynamic capability may be far better than Ecosport but then its upto the buyers to decide whether they want to trade off a little bit of handling for the go anywhere attitude with the massive ground clearance and a whopping 550mm water wading capability. They called it the 'Wide Body Logan'; and rightly so, the car did accommodate 3 adults on the rear bench - comfortably. There's plenty of space in the cabin too, the Vibe is 45 mm wider than the next-widest competitor. Talking about control stalks, they are placed by European norms having the headlamp switches on the left and wiper controls on the right. With a kerb weight of 1155 kgs, the Vibe delivers an ARAI rating of 20.8 kmpl which coupled with the 50 liter fuel tank promises a good driving range. Once you get moving, because of the negligible turbo lag you will feel like you are driving any other naturally aspirated motor. This is probably the first time I have noticed such a long throw accelerator pedal, but make no mistake, even if you put your foot all the way down; the car is going to take its own sweet time to gain momentum due to the limited power. On the move, the noise insulation is impressive, there is absolutely no wind noise coming through and it feels quiet and comfortable doing the likes of 100 kph in the Vibe. Another reason for cruising over bad roads in the 172mm ground clearance, identical to the Verito sedan. Also, making a U turn will require you to have a firm hand with more than moderate amount of strength applied.
But the Point is, the stability of a car will be compromised if you increase the CG which is affected mainly by ground clearance.Typically increase the GC by 1 cm, the CG goes up by ~1cm. I know several people who never required an airbag to save their lives but that does not necessarily mean, it is not essential for others or even them for that matter. The same ray of hope that almost every other manufacturer has seen, and is already cashing in on. Ask any Meru-Cab driver and he will tell you that the car has clocked well over 1 lakh kilometers and is still running in good shape.
Add to that, all the leading competitors are much more with the times when it comes to design elements, inside and out. The indicator makes an electronic beeping noise, rather than the usual soft clicking sound.
When you look at the seats from outside you will find them a bit short and wide(pictured later on).
Another irritant here is the light coloured windscreen defogger vents on top of the black dashboard.
Of course with just 64 BHP this is not a swift car to drive, but city driving is something absolutely nobody will complain about. The Vibe pulls generously from about 1000 RPM onwards and is very forgiving in terms of engine knocking and other low rpm issues. For those who mistake it for a hatchback, once the boot lid comes up (in a traditional sedan-like fashion, with the metal lid attached to a hinge below the rear glass), the air is instantly cleared. Height adjustment is missing for the front seats, but the dashboard is placed so low (and the seat a bit high) that even the shorter drivers will not have any problem getting comfortable with the Vibe.
The K9K mill is extremely tractable, and downshifts aren't required as frequently as most other diesel cars. If you're gentle enough, you can drive around in the 800-1000 RPM range in the city without any harsh vibrations or jerking. Of course it is a diesel engine and it will sound way more gruff than a petrol, but it's still well controlled. The Maruti Suzuki Dzire being the most successful example (India's highest selling car for May 2013), despite what most consider to be a quirky rear-end design.
But then, this no nonsense practicality being evident in their design language is also what keeps a lot of private customers away. Chances are a lot of the Vibe's sales numbers are going to come from cannibalization of the Verito, due to the cheaper price tag. One look at the steering wheel however, and chances are you'll think it is too big for your taste. However, because of this, the taller people will feel like they are driving a UV since they will be sitting quite high.
Whilst stepping on the gas, you will also notice that there is no redline marking on the tachometer. They tried to push the Logan with limited edition variants like the Logan Play, but those decals and bright red alloys failed to move the car off the shelves for Mahindra-Renault. All the other manufacturers who are fighting for their piece of the compact sedan space had to stick a boot onto their existing hatches.
Interestingly, even with this boot diet, the Vibe is actually 15 kgs heavier than its sedan sibling. A catch-22 situation with the Vibe is that the advantage of the Verito goes missing; that is, the big boot for airport hauling duty. However, if you are the fast & furious types, you will definitely notice the lack of punch from this engine.
It is very optimistically marked till 7000 RPM, but the engine will only climb till about 4,900 RPM. The French were obviously not happy with this, and eventually the Mahindra-Renault joint venture (Mahindra 51 : Renault 49) came to a close in 2010. There's no steering mounted controls on this hefty wheel, but on the plus side, it does contain a driver's airbag.
Air conditioning is average, a reason why it cannot be bone chilling is that the big greenhouse allows a lot of sunlight and heat inside the cabin. The extremely linear power delivery also takes away the turbo spool which some diesel owners have been enjoying on a daily basis. The end result is as we know it - The Verito Vibe, which to us looks like more of a hatchback than a compact sedan. Hence this specific variant won't appeal to its major sales contributors - the fleet owners. However, it has more than enough pep for the city and the average customer will be happy with it. The decision taken was that Renault would supply key components to Mahindra through a license agreement. Cars may come with all sorts of sensors and gizmos to keep it pointing in the right direction. This is not the first time Mahindra has chopped a vehicle to make in-roads into an evolving segment. But at the end of the day, if you drive like a twit, even the Gods won't be able to save you. They did this first with the Quanto (Mahindra Quanto : Official Review) by chopping the Xylo, to make an entry into the compact MUV space. As of now, the Verito is the only vehicle to have a full sized sedan and a compact sedan available on sale in the market.
They don't whisk you off the ground and place you back on the road, in the event of an incident.
Earlier we had the Indigo and the Indigo CS, but eventually the Manza's arrival flushed out the Indigo from the Indian market.



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