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lisa fouladi: Okay, so it looks like Lisa Prethi. You and I are the only ones here at the moment.

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lisa fouladi: So hi, hi, so I'm I've gone ahead and start the call because we're at the top of the hour, and I'm Lisa Puladi. I'm hosting this call on behalf of Dr. Rita. Marie. I'm 1 of Dr. Rita Marie's coaches. You may or may not know me and and this is the content implementation. Call for March

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lisa fouladi: now. I guess the call is used to go over any issues or questions you have regarding the content of the Nept program, and if you don't have any questions for that, or if you have, I mean once those questions are exhausted, then we can go on to anything else. If you have questions about tests or anything. We can talk about anything.

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lisa fouladi: So it's just you and me.

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lisa fouladi: Do you have any? Have you been on these calls before?

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Lisa Pressey: I have. I generally miss a lot of stuff because I homeschool my kid, and we are usually in school till about 3, 3 30. So

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Lisa Pressey: sometimes when I can get on them, I'm like, All right, cool, I'm gonna go.

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Lisa Pressey: I'm gonna guess there's still a problem with them sending out reminders, because

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Lisa Pressey: this is the second time this has happened where I was the only one that showed up just because I saw it on the schedule, so I wrote it on the calendar and

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Lisa Pressey: Nobody else was there. And last time I waited for like an extra hour, and it just the calls happened to come on. It was at nighttime with Dr. Rita, Marie, and somebody else. But, I don't know if I have specific questions about content right now I'm in the neurotransmitter

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Lisa Pressey: part.

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Lisa Pressey: but I guess I could ask you questions about the person I had spoken to you about before. When we did the case study

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Lisa Pressey: So she was on Gabapantin to begin with.

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lisa fouladi: Okay.

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Lisa Pressey: Is that for a different neurotransmitter than it is for the

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Lisa Pressey: she was on. What's the one she's on now, Cymbalta, which says it's a serotonin reuptake inhibitor

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lisa fouladi: Yeah, but, Penton. So you know, I'm not a doctor. So it's it's used a lot for pain medication.

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lisa fouladi: So that's how like, I'm part of a medical practice as well as Dr. Marie's practice, and another practice as well in Europe.

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lisa fouladi: And so Gabapentin is typically prescribed for pain. And so what was the other one? Cymbalta? It. But isn't Cymbalta a

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Lisa Pressey: Malta says it was an S. Sri.

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lisa fouladi: Yeah, exactly.

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Lisa Pressey: So because she's the one I'm trying to figure out where these headaches are coming from.

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Lisa Pressey: And she had told me the other day she tried gabapent, and it felt like it worked for a little bit. Then it stopped. Now she's on Cymbalta. Same thing. Felt like it was working now. It stopped. So she is. She is going to wean off of that, as according to her doctor, which okay, fine. She thinks that's causing jaw pain, which possibility. We looked it up, and that could happen. But the headache pains are the ones I talked to you about where I said

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Lisa Pressey: I was kind of leaning toward her, having allergies because her monocytes are high and E. Cinnaphils are high, so I'm trying to get her to kind of go off the dairy you had recommended gluten and dairy, and she was like, oh, my God, I can't do that, I said. Let's start with one thing at a time.

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Lisa Pressey: Let's go with the dairy first.st

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Lisa Pressey: but because she's got food issues, and she said she wasn't diagnosed with anorexia, but it was there, and I guess she knew herself it was there.

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Lisa Pressey: It's it's more of a challenge. So I'm trying to find some foods that we can kind of swap out

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lisa fouladi: Yeah, there are lots of swaps you can do for Gluten. I mean, really, I had a lady who was actually from Virginia, and she was a math teacher and a complete non-believer when it came to

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lisa fouladi: foods being related to her migraines. I mean, she was complete. Nonbeliever and I did blood work. Also found, you know, histamine issues.

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lisa fouladi: And we she really

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lisa fouladi: tried she stopped. The gluten, stopped the dairy. She's a slim person, you know, so there's no like, you know, weight issues.

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Lisa Pressey: Right.

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lisa fouladi: What the headaches and migraines stop.

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lisa fouladi: and she was able to, and she really saw the benefit, and whenever she would go off a little bit from the diet. Then the headaches would start again. You've got to find out if it could be food related. It could be hormonally related

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lisa fouladi: right?

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lisa fouladi: Various different causes, you know. So she needs to keep a journal and also track. Is she still menstruating

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Lisa Pressey: I'm not sure I'll have to ask her, because I'm trying to keep. I do massage on her. So in my massage notes I'm also keeping track of everything else, and I'm doing small amounts of coaching with her because she doesn't want to spend too too much money. She doesn't have it. So I'm doing like 15 min a week. And I said, Listen, here's what I have. I did your blood work. Here's what I found, but it's also

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Lisa Pressey: I'm kind of starting to lean toward. Maybe she's got a thyroid issue. Because it was hypodrenal hypothyroid showed up like 3 or 4 times for both of them. But

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Lisa Pressey: she's not really showing any of the signs or blood work that would go toward the hypothyroid as far as

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Lisa Pressey: other things that would be happening. But her

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lisa fouladi: Keep your focus really on her headaches right, and headaches and migraines, because going down to thyroid is other layers. There may be thyroid imbalances, but it's unlikely that the thyroid is hormones, I mean, like estrogen. Progesterone those

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Lisa Pressey: Right.

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lisa fouladi: So you're thinking thyroid in terms of hormone. So that's not like more likely would be changes in her estrogen and progesterone throughout the month. So what I usually ask for women of reproductive age is to keep a journal. You know, a chart, and to put in, you know, like when they're where they are in the menstrual cycle. And then, whether it's a hormonally related or triggered headache or migraine, right

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Lisa Pressey: I don't. I don't think so, only because, she said in the mornings, when she gets up, it's not. It's tolerable as her day goes on

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Lisa Pressey: by 3 o'clock.

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Lisa Pressey: It's it's way more intense. So that's why I kind of started to think allergy stuff. She is going to be going to an allergist, so that I guess would lead me to the question of

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Lisa Pressey: if it's not a dairy allergy. But it's an intolerance that's not really going to show up on an allergy test, though. Right? If it's just an intolerance, I mean, I know you can get some of the same symptoms, but

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lisa fouladi: I mean, if she goes to an allergist, the allergist will check Iges Ige, but you can look, and and she may not have any Ige related dairy reaction. So that's true allergy. But sensitivities or intolerances would be picked up on the Igg

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lisa fouladi: so you could get a separate igg test you know.

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Lisa Pressey: We're doing the one with the little pinpricks like a food. And times isn't gonna show up right?

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Lisa Pressey: No, okay, because I don't want her to leave there and think. Oh, well, it's not dairy, because I told her I said it might not show up. It doesn't mean you're not intolerant to that food because she's tried lots of things.

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Lisa Pressey: she's been to a couple neurologists. She's been to a chiropractor. She's been to. Pt.

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Lisa Pressey: I give her massages, and it's a little relief. But then no, and she has a therapist, and like I said, she's on Cymbalta for anxiety. But now she's coming off of that. So she tried Gabapantin for pain that didn't seem to work. I'm like you are going like in so many directions. It's it's been making me dizzy.

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Lisa Pressey: So I'm just keeping notes of everything she's telling me, so I can kind of sum it up for her, and she can see where she's at, and we've presented some goals that she wants to take as far as diet changes like you said. Taking out the dairy, I said, let's start with that.

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Lisa Pressey: Keeping a list of doctors and stuff she's gone to, and things she's tried

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lisa fouladi: Very and gluten right? So if you just really keep since you only speak to her 15 for 15 min, really there. So they're very. There are various different mechanisms through which

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lisa fouladi: headaches can be caused through food, so there can be various different mechanisms that foods cause reactions. Right. So the, there's the Ige. This is the classic allergy, the Iggs, which is the intolerance and the histamine, which is something else. It could be oxalates. You know, these are all other ways that foods can be linked to sensitivity. So

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lisa fouladi: really start with the usual culprits. So Dairy

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lisa fouladi: Gluten really can't. You're not going to show much of a benefit with just reducing. Dairy, dairy and gluten are cross reactive foods. So both

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Lisa Pressey: Oh, I know I've been gluten free for 27 years, and I can't eat dairy either, and I've tried to explain. I get headaches when I drink dairy. Now I get bloated, but I used to just get like a severe headache right away. It's hard for me to explain to her that she doesn't seem to think these things can happen from eating food, and I'm like, listen, I eat something with seed oils in it last week.

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Lisa Pressey: and I got so sick, and it's like splitting open my skin and it just making my skin dry and bloated. And she's like that can't happen. I'm like. Yes, it can.

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Lisa Pressey: So I'm trying to like, you know.

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Lisa Pressey: Give a full explanation

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lisa fouladi: I mean, the best thing would be, despite her eating disorder

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lisa fouladi: background. Get her on a classic elimination diet, I mean, that's what I would really do. So

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Lisa Pressey: But I told her, and she's all that's gonna be so hard. Well, I never said it was. Gonna be easy, you know, but if you want

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lisa fouladi: Lots of foods that you can substitute right and and that's what I really you should do for 30 days, and then see where the headaches are

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Lisa Pressey: So do you keep like when you do that elimination diet?

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Lisa Pressey: What would be? Do you do the fodmap? Or do you just do something else like foods that she knows are safe

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lisa fouladi: No, I do. The classic elimination diet this dairy gluten soya

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lisa fouladi: corn you know. Shellfish, eggs

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Lisa Pressey: All the major allergens take those out and see where she's at. At that point which

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lisa fouladi: Look at Dr. Maurice. You know. Look at the I guess it's a gut repair program, but just

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Lisa Pressey: Okay.

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lisa fouladi: Classic elimination, diet, nothing fancy, no fodmaps, no low

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Lisa Pressey: Roadmap is really crazy. Her diet is so. It's so carbohydrate rich that

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Lisa Pressey: I'm like you. You need to make changes, anyway. I'm like you just your diet is horrible, I mean her. Her vegetables are like corn and potatoes, I'm like.

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Lisa Pressey: where's everything else in between? There, you know. But I don't want her to add a whole bunch of new foods and then not know what's causing her reaction at this point. That's what I'm trying to tell her. Don't just start adding in all kinds of other stuff, because you need to find out what's causing whatever's happening. Now.

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lisa fouladi: Yeah. But I would start really with all the

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Lisa Pressey: Being able to

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lisa fouladi: You know you? Yeah. The usual suspects the 6 or 7 usual suspects, and then then see, and then from there, if you need to do nightshades or you know other things like oxalates and histamines, etc. Then you can later. But 1st get 1st clean up the diet and

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lisa fouladi: and and get get rid of the Major allergens. I think that would be the the thing to do, and then and then see if there's any link.

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lisa fouladi: even if she's not menstruating. Hormones still fluctuate so they could still be triggered. So try to kind of figure out if it's at all hormonally related.

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lisa fouladi: Those are the 2 major areas. I would work

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Lisa Pressey: And the elimination diet you do for 30 days, and then go from there

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lisa fouladi: Yeah, I mean, you know the whole point of the elimination diet. That's the gold standard, because there's no real perfect testing. You know, I like testing because it forms the basis of an elimination diet. But if somebody doesn't want to do the testing, or you know, that's the gold standard and usually the foods need to be reintroduced. But I wouldn't reintroduce gluten and dairy

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Lisa Pressey: Yeah, I I wouldn't either. I mean, I yeah. So it's a tough one. But you can go ahead and let Janet talk and see what she needs. Thank you.

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lisa fouladi: Okay. Alright, Janet, can you turn on your video or

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Janet Vailes: No, I'm at work, but hello to everybody. I don't know what time it is for you, Lisa, so I don't know if it's good morning or Good afternoon.

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lisa fouladi: Evening. It's 7

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Janet Vailes: Good evening.

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Janet Vailes: All right. So here is my question

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Janet Vailes: as an Nept student, and or when you graduate an Nept graduate, can you order the Dutch test the Gi map or any other blood test for your client

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lisa fouladi: Yes, yes, you can. You can. You can even as a student even now, because I know Rob did this. You can register with precision analytical.

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lisa fouladi: So you can get order. The Dutch test

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Janet Vailes: So I'll tell you what happened, and maybe I just need to ask for a supervisor is I had called the Dutch test, but that was back when Christine was there at the help desk, and they told me they didn't know who Dr. Rita Marie was, and that basically they didn't have anything to set me up as a student, but I should have pursued it further. Probably. So I'll have to get a supervisor, but we should be able to set up.

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Janet Vailes: and we should be able to get our own and do them for our clients. And then what about ordering like a Vexia, or some of these other places

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lisa fouladi: And when once you're once you're certified with Nept, you can. You can

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lisa fouladi: get a an Avexia account. So Avexia allows you to order blood work through Labcorp, you know, and then it has all the tests there, gi map, etc, etc. You will not be able to order directly to Genova. Then you you would have to get either. You would have to order the Genova tests through Avexia or another platform called Rupa

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Janet Vailes: What's it called our our

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lisa fouladi: RUPA. Rupa

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Janet Vailes: Okay.

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lisa fouladi: But and then vibrant America they require. You have got to see if you would qualify. I think. Isabel, for example, and Steph. Both can order from vibrant America, and so can I. But I have different licensing, because I have different qualifications besides. Nept and but yes, you can, and you can also get a full script account once you're certified, and then you can, you know, use full script with your with your clients.

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Janet Vailes: Okay. So I certified as a certified holistic health coach through the Institute of Integrated Nutrition. And I don't know if that qualifies. And then I of course I know I'm doing clinical herbalism 4th year through David Winston. That doesn't. But any Pt. Then should be able to qualify me for a lot of stuff that I would be able to do, so I wouldn't need to go anywhere else, really, I should be able to get everything through Dr. Rita Marie's program

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lisa fouladi: Well, I know from other graduates. Nept certified graduates. They were able to get a vexia accounts, rupa accounts and fullscript accounts

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Janet Vailes: And that should cover what you all are teaching us, and recommend that we order, in order to take care of our clients

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lisa fouladi: Yes, all those tests, and you can't order Genova directly because of their rules regarding providers. But you can work around that through Ivexia and rupa.

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lisa fouladi: So you want

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Janet Vailes: Wonderful.

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lisa fouladi: The Nova test. So it's it's actually, really, it's really great. And I mean, it's it's it's amazing. Actually. So I don't know, Rob. Maybe you tell. Rob was able to register with precision analytical as a student. So how did you do that, Rob?

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Janet Vailes: He did it early on, because Rob and I talked about it

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lisa fouladi: He's here. Let's just say what he, how he did it. Okay.

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Rob Vanderwal: Yeah, it was. It was back when I was on that Dutch.

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Rob Vanderwal: you know, on level one, whatever the module was.

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Rob Vanderwal: Because, yeah, Dr. Henry said, Yeah, just go to this link and

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lisa fouladi: Yeah.

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Rob Vanderwal: And tell them it was that you're a student of Dr. Rita Marie.

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Rob Vanderwal: and that you can be be a provider. So that's exactly what I did.

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Rob Vanderwal: I just put down Dr. E. Maurice.

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Rob Vanderwal: Amen.

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Rob Vanderwal: It qualified me, and then I got you know, as I got free enough I got 5 tests

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Rob Vanderwal: I can from whichever ones I wanted, and

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Rob Vanderwal: but after after 5 I think it'd be full price

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lisa fouladi: Okay, okay, now, that's great. So so, Janet, I know you reached out to them once, and it didn't work. So try again.

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Janet Vailes: Ian.

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lisa fouladi: If it doesn't work, then reach back out to our help desk, and we'll see if there's some other way. But otherwise, how far are you along in the Nept program? How close are you to certification?

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Janet Vailes: I'm getting ready to start level 3. I just got to get busy and get that finished, because when I started, Dr. Rita, Marie knew I wanted to postpone starting because I was doing David Winston's and working full time and doing another course. But she told me to go ahead because of pricing, and I went ahead and did it all together. And then, unfortunately, my mom got ill and passed. So I'm getting there. But yeah, I've got to just get through

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Janet Vailes: Level 3, and then I probably will need to start doing some of the certification process. And I was trying to come up with a topic that would work for my thesis for David Winston's class and work for you guys because I got to do 120 page type thesis for him, and I got to do some programs for y'all. So it'd be great if I could pick something that would go that would work with everything

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lisa fouladi: Well, look at the certification requirements. And and then, yeah, look at the certification requirements that you're talking about the health topic presentation

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Janet Vailes: That 15 min, I thought, Wow, what if I do? A 120 page dissertation, but pulled some things out and did a 15 min overview. And that way I could be doing all the research for both at the same time. If that makes sense

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lisa fouladi: Yeah, sorry. I'm just about to cough.

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lisa fouladi: Who is your coach advisor?

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Janet Vailes: I haven't signed up yet. I'd love for you to be, but I don't know how to do that.

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lisa fouladi: Well, oh, sorry.

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lisa fouladi: I've been talking too much today.

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lisa fouladi: So yeah, when you you can just reach out to help desk, you'd like to be assigned a coach advisor, and you can request me

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lisa fouladi: there are only 2 coach advisors. There's me and Annette

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Janet Vailes: And you had coached with me before, and I just didn't follow up on doing some more stuff. I need to get back to that. So I thought, well, since I've used you for an overview, and if I use coaching, it would be great to have you as an advisor, especially if I continue coaching

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lisa fouladi: Yeah, just say that and

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lisa fouladi: And you know Annette and I kind of rotate, you know. And but then that's fine. You can. You can request, and I would suggest to everybody who is listening.

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lisa fouladi: Don't wait until the very end to turn in your assignment. So, as you go through the levels, do your assignments. But yeah, go through. I mean, there isn't anything herbal per se on the health topic presentation. But you can ask if I am indeed going to be your your advisor, you can just

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lisa fouladi: talk to me about it, and then I, if I approve it, the coach Advisor basically needs to approve the topic

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lisa fouladi: It's it's it's fine, you know. We I mean Annette and I. We don't. You know we work well together, and you. It's it's no problem. If you request me, you can just say exactly what you told me that we had worked. I think I did a blood chemistry

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Janet Vailes: You did, and you were excellent, and I hadn't decided to go back for more coaching yet, because there was some work I needed to do and then I went through a macular whole surgery, and I'm getting ready to go through another surgery. So yeah.

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lisa fouladi: Do look at the assignments that would have been like a nutrient report assignment. That's it's really easy. That's a 2 pager, you know. You just have to select the nutrient and and then get that done. And I would suggest anybody who's listening, and I know, Rob, you're supposed to be doing your health topic presentation. And you really haven't, you know, finished that yet. But

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lisa fouladi: access, lifetime, access to the materials. But you don't have lifetime access to the live calls. And I think once you become an alumni you have access to the calls, but that's why they're going to enforce this you know, 2 and a half year deadline thing. I mean, it's just not been enforced. Basically

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Janet Vailes: So to repeat. Then, once you finish, you have lifetime access to the course, and once you're certified as an alumni, you can then be on the calls. But if you don't meet your time period you could still get your materials. You won't be certified and you won't be able to get on those phone calls.

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lisa fouladi: That's right, unless unless dries thinking about a membership program because a lot of people want calls like this call, there's the ine open coaching call. There's the case study call. So a lot of people want to have access. So she's thinking about a membership. So that's it's something that hasn't been formalized yet, and it hasn't been decided upon yet. But for people who maybe don't want to certify, or who have exceeded their time limit, or have timed out. Then there's a way of at least accessing the live calls

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lisa fouladi: because the people that are in the community really do seem to find value in the calls.

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Janet Vailes: Yeah, I appreciate you and Annette and everybody. So y'all do, really, yeah, I do appreciate the calls and helping us through our stuff. So I'll get on and get finished. But thank you for clarifying all that, because I wasn't sure if I needed to do another program in order to be able to access reports. It sounds like I could just finish this course, and I can get everything I need through any. Pt.

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lisa fouladi: Yeah, but avexia is a really big platform, and so is Rupa. I mean, you could even do blood work through Rupa. So once you have avexia, you have the whole. You know all the tests at your disposal.

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lisa fouladi: Well, it's through its lab core. But there are some markers. For example, I can't order like proponent, which really annoys me. Because I'm not a doctor, and it has to do with licensing. But in general, except for some odd biomarkers.

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lisa fouladi: and and of course Avexia charges me a fee, and I don't get a commission on the blood work, but I also shouldn't be paying for other people's lab work. So when you order through Ivexia direct Ivexia bills, the client, and then, once the client has paid, then they could get access to the requisition, and that way it doesn't cost me anything, you know.

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lisa fouladi: Yeah, and they still get really great pricing. So instead of like $5 for Cbc, it's like $5 and 10 cents or $5 fee and and the avexia fee, because I'm charged. Obviously, Avexia has to make money right? So but yeah, it's good. I mean, I tell people I don't make a commission, but I also shouldn't be paying other people fees

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lisa fouladi: Yeah, and I don't. I don't make a commission on. I don't even, I mean, if you do, physicians pricing you can. Then you would pay for it, you know yourself, and then you have to build a client. I guess that way you could mark up and then charge more. But I don't wanna do that.

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Janet Vailes: Well, this was excellent the way you answered it. It really helps me get clarification, because I think I'll get through faster with that end goal. It's like, Okay, what am I going to really do at the end here? How does it look? And I'm just going to make a point to get really disciplined and just get through it. And I hadn't really got into mentors and figuring all that out. So

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lisa fouladi: Yeah. And I think it's like, if you're going through the nutrient section that's time to do the nutrient assessment. It's easier. But

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lisa fouladi: What takes time is the project one which is taking somebody through a blood sugar or a or a you know it's a case study that you've got to present. It's so. It's either taking them through a blood sugar rebalancing like a metabolic reset or doing a digestive reset, so that takes

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Janet Vailes: Wonderful. Thank you. Thank you for that. Now I'm really clear. So thank you so much for answering that

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Rob Vanderwal: Yeah, I I wanted to ask you about Beta greeting that one Middleware Beta, what Beta Glucan?

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Rob Vanderwal: We had a good call.

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Rob Vanderwal: I I wanted to know if it was. Well, I know it's for immunity, but I mean, is it a good.

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Rob Vanderwal: a substitute for vitamin? C

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lisa fouladi: and so that's why I'm wondering it's it's it's a type of fiber. It does have provide immune support, but it's a type of fiber. That you've that are in like oats and and you know some

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lisa fouladi: You can't really compare Beta Glucans with vitamin C, because they have very different mechanisms of action. So vitamin C is an antiviral antibacterial antifungal.

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lisa fouladi: And and of course it, you know, so provides, immune, and it's an antioxidant. So it's a completely different animal to a Beta Glucan. Beta Glucan is really a polysaccharide. It's a it's a fiber.

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lisa fouladi: But it does have health benefits, including immune support. It has cholesterol lowering impacts because it binds with cholesterol and helps escort it out of the body.

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lisa fouladi: so it's considered a heart healthy kind of fiber. So when I think about Beta Glucans, I think about it in terms of boosting, you know, fiber basically

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lisa fouladi: benefits of heart health helps, of course, blood sugar, because it's a fiber, stimulates the immune system. So that's what you were talking about. So I think we have to always

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Rob Vanderwal: Yeah, exactly done, you know. I wanted to ask you a silly, stupid question.

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Rob Vanderwal: You know. I don't know why this bothers me, but you know how they talk about the standard American diet.

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lisa fouladi: Well, I mean, it's the standard American diet. It's actually Western diet. So it's the same. It's the same. It's basically characterized by a high consumption of processed foods, refined grains, lots of red meat, sugary drinks, and it's pretty much low in fruit and low in vegetables and and whole grains. So in the Us. It's called the Standard American Diet.

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lisa fouladi: this kind of Western highly processed diet can also be found in developing countries which is not part of the West anymore, but a lot of the people are mimicking those kind of diets sort of the Mcdonald's and that kind of stuff because they're cheap, you know. Cheap foods.

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lisa fouladi: But no, it's not a stupid question at all. It's it's it's a Western pattern diet.

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Rob Vanderwal: Yeah, yeah, it's it's the diet that I've been on for 45 years.

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lisa fouladi: But over time. It maladapts, and that's when illness comes in. So perhaps you know, you have good genes or something. And you know.

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lisa fouladi: Inflammation. Basically, it's it's a very inflammatory diet. It's very high in Omega, 6 s. Low in Omega. 3 s.

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lisa fouladi: I mean, you can see all kinds of studies on pubmed. Comparing the Western diet to, let's say, the Mediterranean diet, or other kinds of diets that have healthful benefits.

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lisa fouladi: or maybe late fifties, early sixties. Because before that there just wasn't this, you know, processed food industry kind of thing. So

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Rob Vanderwal: you know the topic of Krill oil came up in the past, and I recently saw it

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Rob Vanderwal: The the. What I was experiencing is I get dry eye at night

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lisa fouladi: Well, it's it you! It's used a lot for dry eye. But then any omega 3 fatty acid would help as well. But that's 1 of the benefits.

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lisa fouladi: so did it. Did it help you? It's a shrimp shrimp like derivative right?

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Rob Vanderwal: But but I do. I believe that. That's why I bought it. Because they I actually got a prescription for dry eye from my eye, doctor.

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lisa fouladi: But you've got to look at, you know.

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lisa fouladi: looking at your omega 3. Omega 6 balance. Have you done that?

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lisa fouladi: You can also just put your food into chronometer, and it will tell you it will show you your balance of Omega threes and sixes.

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lisa fouladi: but just put your food in without the supplement, and then see what your diet dietary balance is, and then take it from there

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Rob Vanderwal: Oh, yeah. Good idea.

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Rob Vanderwal: Then, of course, you could do some testing as well

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lisa fouladi: Okay, and just make sure you take all the nutrients, you know. Make sure you have the fat, soluble vitamins, which are also important for the eyes

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Rob Vanderwal: Yes, that. Yeah. I do take those also.

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lisa fouladi: And do a stool test to make sure you don't have any fat malabsorption. So

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Rob Vanderwal: Yeah, that. That's also on my list of things to do. I was, I was just trying to figure out how to do that is, I wanna I want to get that. And

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Rob Vanderwal: those 2. So how do I do that?

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lisa fouladi: Well, we can order for you. I can ask Tasha to order for you through rupa.

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lisa fouladi: fantastic. Yeah, I mean you. I don't know if you can set up your own rupa account now or not, but tasha could order it for you

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Rob Vanderwal: Both of those

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lisa fouladi: Yeah,

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Rob Vanderwal: Yeah. And then it goes to you for interpretation.

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Rob Vanderwal: And how do we do that?

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lisa fouladi: We set up a lab analysis session, we we do a lab, yeah, we yeah. So we just have to express an interest. And then? I guess I have to send you a link to set up a lab analysis session. Yeah.

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lisa fouladi: Typically for one test. So you know.

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lisa fouladi: And if you want to do 2 tests at the same time, I'll have to ask Dr. Marie. But but this session, yeah, especially those tests are quite complicated. So it's better to have separate sessions. But if you have any blood work as well, I can do blood work and a gi effects or blood work and a nutrivial together. Yeah.

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lisa fouladi: No, it's not difficult. The nutrivial requires a blood draw and a urine sample, and the blood draw needs to be centrifuged. So you're in Houston, right? And and you can usually take the kit to any labs. Now all the labs walk in labs, and then they will

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lisa fouladi: with the what's it called with the urine sample has to be frozen as well, so it was difficult for him. But it's really not that difficult. I don't know why it was so difficult for him. I think he had a hard time finding a

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lisa fouladi: place, or I don't know. I remember the conversation with him, but it's really not that difficult. You just have to find. You can even have mobile phlebotomy. Somebody come to your home and take the blood draw, and then they they just have to be able to centrifuge, and then they would take ideally. They would take the urine, sample the blood sample and send it to Genova. Although I spoke to somebody today who just ordered a nutrivial, and they're going to the lab, and the lab is not shipping. So she has to then

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lisa fouladi: Bad deal. Yeah. So ideally, you find somebody, especially since you're living in a big metropolitan area, you find a lab that can do it all for you. You know. I mean, you just have to collect the urine sample, obviously at home. So

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lisa fouladi: No quest doesn't do it. Quest and Labcorp don't do it. There are many other labs that do it, though that's why I said any labs now walk in labs, alter labs. No quest, and that's why, you know, he found it difficult. No quest will only do quest requisitions, and Labcorp will only do labcorp requisitions.

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lisa fouladi: Well, just reach out and let me know if you want us to order those 2 tests for you or not.

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lisa fouladi: let me know. I mean, if you know now I can let Tasha know, or our lab team know? Or do you want to wait, or what? Where? What's your timeline

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Rob Vanderwal: yeah, I'll I'll just. I'll just contact you in in a short.

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lisa fouladi: Okay. Well, just send me an email and and then I can let Pasha know, and then they then they'll they'll order it, and then you'll get a an invoice from Rupa. Once you pay that

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lisa fouladi: they send the the kit to you.

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lisa fouladi: And and then if you want to find out

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lisa fouladi: more information information about the lab analysis session, then we can do that by email.

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Rob Vanderwal: I I noticed that in here in Houston the oak pollen is just gone crazy. You know. My whole front yard backyard is just full of oak pollen.

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Rob Vanderwal: and and I don't know if this is true. But you know I'm itching all over. I don't know if it's because of that or not, but it's

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Rob Vanderwal: but you know it, it's so. It's so much I had to. We had to sweep it up into a big massive pile just like leaves.

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Rob Vanderwal: and take it out with the trash and you know, I know

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lisa fouladi: What you could do is go to the pharmacy and get something like Benadryl, you know they have a non drowsy formula or claritin, which is non drowsy, or something called Allegra to see if that just helps reduce the itchiness. And then, you know, you're having a reaction, you know, if that's coming from that. Just get something over the counter. That's kind of mild

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lisa fouladi: to see if it helps, just as a test to see if it helps if you take an over the counter something like Claritin or Allegra, and it doesn't help. Then there's something else, that's, you know, causing the itchiness

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Rob Vanderwal: Okay, it's a good idea.

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lisa fouladi: Sure.

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Rob Vanderwal: Got a lot. Got a lot of answers today

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lisa fouladi: Yeah. So I I don't. If you if you guys have difficulty getting links for the calls, just reach out to help desk. So you know. On the ine side there's a upcoming calls and events right? So you can see all the calls there and then usually should get a an email, you know, for the upcoming calls, I don't know.

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lisa fouladi: you know, like the next one is in April, the I and E. Office hours.

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lisa fouladi: And of course the case study call is next week. It's the 1st Tuesday of the month.

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lisa fouladi: So I think you can look under any Pt. Calls as well. I don't know the real difference.

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lisa fouladi: I I really don't know the difference. I think I think not. Everybody has access to all the information. So the I, any like office hours, there may be people who just bought the insulin resistance program, for example. So they would have access. To that. But but yeah, the case study calls are

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lisa fouladi: so that there's the case. Study calls. That's the April first.st So you should get. You should have received an email a week beforehand right

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lisa fouladi: Then there's the open coaching call. That's the 8th of April. Then there's the Ine office hours. I'm just looking on the upcoming calls and events.

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lisa fouladi: and then there's a quarterly business meeting. So there's so many calls. And then there's this call again the content implementation. So there are 5 calls. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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lisa fouladi: Yeah. But the quarterly business call is just quarterly. Obviously. So it's not going to be every month.

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lisa fouladi: Yeah, that should be interesting. That's with Jen. the the you know the biochemics founder's wife. So

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Rob Vanderwal: Yeah. So if I email you and and say, Yeah, order those 2 labs for me, how do I? How do I pay for that?

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lisa fouladi: As I said, Pasha or Darcy will process it, and you'll get an invoice from Rupa

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Rob Vanderwal: I got you. Okay. Gotcha, gotcha

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lisa fouladi: Yeah, you just have to provide your, you know, like your date of birth and address, and then they they may have that information. I don't know. But

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Rob Vanderwal: Okay. Great. Great.

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lisa fouladi: And rupa invoices directly, and then the results go to Rupa, and then then comes to comes to us, and then Darcy puts it into biochemic

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Rob Vanderwal: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Rob Vanderwal: So yeah, just to let you know that. You know, my presentation is.

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Rob Vanderwal: And that's approval. Yeah, but she's she's waiting on my final final copy. So

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lisa fouladi: We'll send it to her, and then once she approves it, then she can schedule

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lisa fouladi: so now we're doing it differently. We approve the topics.

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lisa fouladi: we meaning me or Annette. We approve the topic, and then we wait for the actual presentation to be sent, and once. That's done and approved. Then we schedule

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lisa fouladi: That way that way. We, you know, and there are various calls that they can be done. The in the office hours is one the Nept. You know, open coaching is another one, and and then also this call as well.

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lisa fouladi: So there's 3 calls that can be used to present the health presentation. So so there are plenty of calls. It's just that so many people wanted to present. And so we booked out all the calls, and then they didn't happen, because people either reschedule short notice or hadn't done their presentations, or whatever so

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Rob Vanderwal: Yeah, exactly.

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Rob Vanderwal: It's okay.

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lisa fouladi: We want you guys to do a good job. So it's just best to

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lisa fouladi: for for you to let us see the presentation. And oh, yeah, yeah.

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lisa fouladi: Once you get, once you get that far, then then it's going to be a good presentation

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Rob Vanderwal: Yeah, yeah, I don't wanna do good jobs.

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Rob Vanderwal: So. But I want to pick a call that you. Yeah. Since you put you helped me a lot. I I would prefer to have a call that you're gonna be on.

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Rob Vanderwal: But I know I'm usually you can't make this call

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lisa fouladi: No, they rescheduled this one. Dr. Peter, Marie. Has the retreat going on in Costa Rica, and this call is usually very late in the evening or middle of the night for me, and they didn't. They asked me to host it, and I said, Well, if you change the time, so that's why it's at this time, because I can't. Usually I can't

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lisa fouladi: but so they did. But but I see the note from Janet that the Nept link under upcoming calls was not there like normal. So just reach out to help desk, and then they will take care of it, you know, that's always a chronic issue, sometimes with links and things. So we can fix things as soon as we know them.

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lisa fouladi: And that's what's so good about the team is that they really do fix things as soon as they we know it, you know. So if you find something, just reach out right away to help desk.

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lisa fouladi: I don't know. I mean, I guess this call is gonna go back to the normal time. Yeah. In April it goes back to normal time. It's at 4 30. Pm, eastern daylight time.

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lisa fouladi: So yeah, that's way late for me.

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lisa fouladi: Yeah, but you know your clocks change at the beginning of this month, and our clocks don't change until this weekend. So it's this 3 week period has been hell for me.

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lisa fouladi: as I have.

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lisa fouladi: you know, scheduling. Yeah. Yeah. So and also, you know, I have to show up at the right time. Right?

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lisa fouladi: And the 1st I didn't realize that the a long time ago I didn't realize that the Us. And Europe didn't change at the same time.

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lisa fouladi: And so I I actually missed a call, or some, you know. And then the client like, Well, I'm like, what do you mean? Where was I? Where were you?

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Rob Vanderwal: No.

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lisa fouladi: About the time change. The spring. One is terrible in the fall is there's only a 1 week period where we change 1st in Europe. And then you guys change but it's just horrible, really horrible.

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lisa fouladi: Yeah. So you guys get going with your certification. What were you gonna ask, Rob.

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Rob Vanderwal: I was just wondering what is as the weather is. It? Is it spring like there, and where you are now or not?

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lisa fouladi: Trying to be. Yes, there's blooms that are coming in, which is nice to see some color

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lisa fouladi: and and there are, you know, more days, I mean, we we haven't had any sort of real freezing temperatures now for a couple of weeks, which is really nice, but it's still not warm. There are some days where you got into the seventies, which was great, but then it's like one day, and then cold again, like today was just really cold, and I had to wear like a heavy winter jacket again. But

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lisa fouladi: at least the days are longer, and things are blooming so

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Rob Vanderwal: Right.

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lisa fouladi: We're going to the right in the right direction.

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Rob Vanderwal: Okay. Good.

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Rob Vanderwal: Yeah.

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lisa fouladi: All right. Nora's here. I don't want to pick on you, Nora. Do you have any questions? Because there's so few people on this call.

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lisa fouladi: I don't know. Nora. Are you listening?

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lisa fouladi: No, maybe maybe she just no, she doesn't have any questions. Okay, she wrote into the chat.

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lisa fouladi: Oh, does anybody have any other questions? If not, we can wrap up early

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Janet Vailes: I just want to say thank you, that you gave me a really really good understanding, the best I've had since I've started. So I just want to say I really appreciate your thorough explanation. So now I know know what it's all about.

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lisa fouladi: Oh, you're welcome. Well, thank you guys for coming, and thank you for being flexible regarding the time. Yeah, they had to accommodate my time zone, and next month is at the normal time again at 4 30 Eastern.

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lisa fouladi: and have a great rest of your week. And thank you. All right. Just reach out if you have any questions. Okay, all right, take care. All right. Bye-bye, bye.