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Axman wrote:Some people blow their cash on watches that they show off to people who think said watches make a person cool. Hence the song:Ra Ra Rachmaninof Russia's craziest piano machineWell in conservatory it was widely considered that Rachmaninov's 3rd concerto is the most difficult piano piece. About Xenakis, I'd say he might be the composer furthest from randomness without being a serialist.
Dream wrote:About Xenakis, I'd say he might be the composer furthest from randomness without being a serialist.
I would definitely say a contemporary piano piece--Rachmaninoff and the others are hard, but certainly not unplayable for a typical concert pianist.Perhaps something by Xenakis, Boulez, or Stockhausen?


In my opinion, it's a tie between Rimsky-Korsakov's Flight of the Bumblebee and Beethoven's 3rd Movement of The Moonlight Sonata. A lot of these pieces are difficult because they are very fast, whereas some, such as the Death Waltz, are not extremely fast, but require pressing a lot of keys at the same time (ignoring the fact that in order to even be physically able to play the Death Waltz, one must have obscenely large hands.) On a more exotic note, I can see having a piece that is difficult because of weird dynamics, pedal techniques, or something like that. I didn't listen to the whole thing, but it seems Ferneyhough is trying to do something actually beautiful, whereas Xenakis always aimed for scientific rigour and true randomness.
His scores are exquisitely constructed, and the very literally architectural forms he used are among the most deliberate in modern music. His scores are exquisitely constructed, and the very literally architectural forms he used are among the most deliberate in modern music.Forgive me for the pedanticness, but most of his compositions are random, in the sense that he used mathematical formulas and absurdly complex means to guarantee that the note pitches and durations where purely, statistically random. Plus, it is aesthetically pleasing artistically, just horribly difficult to read.i feel like that piece is just ridiculous to READ cause he notates out every last trill and such.


The post also contains high-res images of a couple of his other, equally difficult to play scores.
As far as difficulty of playing goes, that piece must be near the piano part of Xenakis's Eonta -- with the difference that Eonta seems to purposefully try not to make any fucking sense.I didn't know Ferneyhough. Where another composer might write a glissando, this guy is writing every single note in the chromatic scale, as 64th notes. 6(There's another version around there that she plays even more insanely fast.)This one is also damn tricky.



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